I agree with Terry Pluto about Myles Jack at number eight (if not Lynch or another trade-down).
A lot of fans still want Bosa, and seem oblivious to the fact that he doesn't project nearly as well to 3-4 outside linebacker as he does to 4-3 defensive end.
I don't hate Bosa, but not at eighth overall. Jack can rush the passer. And cover. And run sideline to sideline. And play multiple positions, including safety.
How can you call 6'1", 245 small, by the way? Jack lacks ideal size for a defensive end, and is marginally undersized for a 3-4 OLB, but is fine anywhere else.
The notion of trading up from 32 does not compute. It's true that first round picks come with a fifth year on their standardized contracts, which is an analytical kinda thing.
Teams usually do that to nab a quarterback, but usually not a position player who will demand less money on his second deal.
Conversely, the draft starts over on day two, and that pick is very valuable. Why would the Browns give up maybe a third round pick for one extra year on one player, instead of getting an additional pick or two to move down?
I also do believe that Seattle will be all over Joe Thomas, so the Browns will be near the bottom of the first round anyway.
I've read some pretty vitriolic, vicious, hysterical, ignorant, and irrational bashing of the Browns organization for this trade.
As you know, I didn't want them to do it, but after it was done and I got Sashi and Hue's (especially Hue's) take on it, I accepted his judgement.
This idiot thinks he knows more about quarterbacks than Hue Jackson. A man's got to know his limitations.
Another commentor reminded him that these guys aren't the old guys, and saying "same old poop" over and over is pretty dumb.
The idiot wanted to know where the sane guy had been for seventeen years. Do you understand what that has to do with it? I don't. For that matter, where was Jimmy Haslam for most of those seventeen years? What about Hue?
I'll bet this is the "Fire Haslam" Petition guy who calls into NFL Radio and makes us all look stupid.
Fortunately, these guys are outnumbered by the rest of us. I've been pleasantly surprised by the dearth of doom, gloom, and Chicken Littleshit I've heard and read.
Even the guys in NFL Radio (including Kirwan believe it or not) say that as long as Hue Jackson was on board with that trade, it was a great deal for the Browns.
And it sure was.
Hue Jackson is the key to this. His reputation preceded him, and his extreme confidence is infectious. You can't not like this guy!
This is why, unless you are idiotic enough to think you are a better judge of quarterbacks and Head Coach than Hue Jackson, you have to stand back, keep your mouth shut, and cross your fingers.
DeForest Buckner is another good pick high in the first round. He would pretty much take care of Horton's defensive line. Six foot seven. Horton's five techniques get sacks, and this one guy could make a BIG difference vs both the pass and the run.
Or Tunsil. Or the other top left tackle. I'm not picky.
Don't get excited about Treadwell. He can't separate. He's not as strong as he'd need to be to be a middling possession guy. Don't fall for it.
The Browns might need receivers, but the guy should at least give Brian Hartline a run for his money. (Remember him? Kinda tall? Played for Ohio State? Yeah, he's still here. Honest!)
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