Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Thursday Night
Anyway, more often than not I'll be just about anywhere in the U.S. on any given sunday. Still, with my company's HQ there in Ohio, here and there I can probably find opportunities to get to a pre-designated Browns-Backers location around Columbus to catch a game. Of course, work comes first.
Anyway, for this game, you guys get to see how right I am about...oh yeah, you won't, because you're still boycotting this blog. Well, somebody who doesn't know me might stumble across it and see that I'm more accurate than Grossi or any of the other reporters, and notice. Maybe they'll tell you about it, and you will forget that it's just me, and start reading it. Or something.
Anyway I won't predect anything about David McMillan. I will just say that he could really make an impression. He is very talented, and has now had plenty of time to develop. Peek's injury gives him his last chance on this team. If he doesn't perform well, he will probably be gone.
That would be sad, since you can't teach speed, and he's one of those guys who could possibly play inside as well as outside. I haven't heard anything about his coverage, but understand that he is doing well against the run from the strongside OLB spot.
Alex Hall has probably already made the roster. He learned at lightspeed, and should definitely make it based on special teams, his ability to play specialized defensive roles immediately, and the probability that he'll develop into a good depth-player as the season progresses.
I like the way they're handling him. When Peek went down, he did get some reps on the strong side, but for the most part has kept working behind Wimbley. While the rate at which he's learned is startling, and he does appear to have great instincts, it's just plain smart to keep a raw kid like him focussed on one spot until he's pretty well mastered it--and working against other second-teamers until he's mastered them.
I think I may have erred in one element of my evaluation of Shantee Orr. I'd said that he was probably a better inside linebacker than outside, and that his lack of height on the outside was a big disadvantage as an edge-rusher. Well...that's true, however he seems to overcome it. He's embarrassed Kevin Schaeffer from the outside more than once. He's even quicker than I'd thought, and apparantly much faster too. I'm really glad Phil got him!
I believe Travis Wilson will do well here. I know that Jerome Harrison will--as usual. I bet he struggles for extra yards oafter contact, too--demonstrating some power. Not that anybody will notice. "Wadd iv Lewis goezz downnn?"
Shaun Rogers is a monster. The other day, he just steamrolled Thomas. Not that this will happen often, (or ever) again, but it brought me back to this: They're crazy to play Shawn Smith at DE rather than on the nose when Rogers is perfectly capable of playing DE. I mean, he might be a somewhat better nose tackle than Smith, but he's a MUCH better DE.
And what are left tackles, first and foremost? Pass-blockers! Rogers couldn't get AROUND Thomas, so he went through him. He matches up well against ANY left tackle. Conventionally, that guy is keyed to the defense's best passrusher. In a 3-4, that's normally a Wimbley. Wimbley will line up outside, and the most important area for the tackle to watch is outside.
I'm getting technical--the nutshell is this: Rogers at DE screws up any offensive line. No single left tackle can drive him off the ball, and few can do more than slow him down on his way to the backfield. He overmatches many left guards as well; they're more athletic and better passblockers than run-blockers. Rogers has a freakish first step to go with his huge bulk, and gets on top of these guys before they can anchor their feet.
Offenses would be forced to use two tight ends more than they want to, and deprive the QB of a recieving option. I mean, Wimbley and Rogers both coming from over there? Rogers shifting over the tackle, Wimbley veering inside to challenge the guard (who has to lunge at him)--I can think of all sorts of nighmarish monkey-wrenches here.
Leave Shawn Smith at nose tackle. He's also quick, and is short enough to get under the center's pads consistantly and drive him back. How can the left guard help against him when both Rogers and Wimbley are coming from the blindside? It's a chain reaction.
Sure, on running downs and stuff it's fine for Smith to be outside and Rogers inside, and it's also good to move people around to exploit matchup issues and keep the offensive line all discombobulated, but the base should be RDE Rogers, NT Smith, and LDE everybody.
You'll see, though, that Rogers and S Smith won't play more than around 2/3'ds of the snaps, and the other two guys more than 3/4ths. A 3-4 line takes a lot of abuse and duke it out with multiple goons. If they play too many downs, they WILL wear down and get hurt.
None of the (I'm guessing) 6 defensive linemen will just sit the bench. One of the last two guys will be more of a passrusher (like Schaefering), and the other a utility guy (like Louis Leonard).
In re Schaefering: I've read reliable camp reports about his being unable to get off blocks, playing too tall, and being too small. Of course, he's a rookie under 300 lbs. But he doesn't have to be a total-package 3-4 defensive end to contribute this season. Until he gets more refined and bigger, he's not a candidate to be in the normal rotation. But if he is an effective big passrusher, he can rotate in on passing downs.
Writers rarely think outside the box about any of these things. They've labelled Leonard as a nose tackle only, when he's worked at and has the tools to play DE as well. The top four remain a cut above him, at least for now, but he's doing okay and actually has more upside than Rubin as well.
Anyway, I also bet that Quinn does fine in an actual game. It's actually a good thing that Romeo is keeping several vets out with hangnails, because we'll get to see how the punks do. Especially the cornerbacks.
Not that this will matter..."vedderrrunnn". OKbye
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Rookies
Alex Hall is way way way ahead of schedule. He's obviously a very fast learner, and my also have been underestimated by most scouts--including Phil Savage.
Understandable. He was a defensive end, and he played at the lowest level of competition in football. Savage himself projected him as "an '09 player". But Hall has come into camp and NOT been dominated by NFL blockers, or been utterly lost at his new position.
I've heard nothing pro or con about how he has looked in coverage, or many other details. But Romeo Crennel, who throws compliments around like manhole covers, has used this word: "impressed", about Hall. Translating from Romeo-eze, that means: "WOW! This kid's GREAT!"
This could well mean that Hall is ahead of schedule. He has the physical tools (and instincts) to fill roles on possibly every special teams unit this season, and be on the active roster. While we can't expect him to displace the versatile, surprisingly quick Shantee Orr, McGinest, or Peek--it begins to look as if he will stick around.
Developing an outside linebacker out of a small-school defensive end usually takes some time, so of course his primary purpose would be special teams this season, but he can help situationally as well. One thing he can do--and is probably being focussed on right now--is rush the passer. He's faster in games than most of the rest, and has the height and reach to keep blockers off him. Right now, he's working extra-hard on hand techniques (dirty tricks).
Lance Leggett appears to be a keeper-though on the practice squad. I'm weary of hearing about how skinny his legs are. He gets open and catches the ball. He's 6'3" and in time will be bigger than Edwards. Travis Wilson, unless he reverses course or is injured, will not only make the roster, but could well become the third wide reciever. Jasper, Sanders, and more guys are in the mix to fill out the WR roster--but Leggett has a good chance of making it to the nursery.
Ditto Chase Ortiz? I frankly have no idea of he can play linebacker. He has the right tools on-paper, and could fit inside as well as outside down the road. They'll try to keep him of he can mirror, read, and cover.
AJ Davis and M'ilvon James are both doing surprisingly well at cornerback, with niether really pulling ahead. The point is, BOTH, EACH of these TWO kids is so far looking like quality players who will be READY TO PLAY by the regular season.
The vedderrunn cornerback hysteria is just assenine. The year they had to sign Perry and Holly, these guys were signed in an emergency after the season had started. By the end of that season, Holly had become a viable starting cornerback. (Perry appears more limitted). These guys were here the first day of camp, and are PROVING themselves to the Coaches, if not to Chicken Little.
Brian Schaefering has been dinged, and hasn't stood out. However, I feel he has a chance to make the final roster. His weight on the roster is 295 lbs. If that's accurate, he's bigger than he was coming out of college. He played nose tackle at Illinois, which might well have hidden him from the scouts, and which means he's a handful one-on-one, accustomed to run-stuffing, and has shown surprising speed, hand-technique, and passrush ability.
I also think that Louis Leonard has the edge over Rubin. It's been written that Leonard is strictly a nose tackle. That's wrong. He can also play defensive end.
Kolo...I'll stop there.,,is a huge Polynesian TE/FB. He's a very strong in-line blocker and a good reciever. He lacks speed, but is reliable. He has been worked at fullback in this camp, leading some to leap to their own conclusions. They have decided that since he is a tight end and we have so many that he doesn't have a chance.
Look: Darnell Dinkens is a great special teamer and good blocker--but what makes you think the Browns don't want to upgrade depth at his expense?
As I've pointed out before, this is a two-TE base offense, Heiden played a lot at fullback last season--I mean, are you blind, or just stupid? Chud enters only his second season implementing his system. Vickers is the fullback. The backup fullbacks will be tight ends. They roster will include four "tight ends" and one fullback DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Rucker is more a Winslow type than a Heiden type. Heiden is the in-line blocker/short reciever/lead-blocker. Kolo has a chance to make the roster--or at least the practice squad, because he is a similar player...though a little slower and bigger. Dinkens is probably gone.
Bell is stiff, and still stumbling around. To be expected. No sweat.
NEW GUYS:
Brad Cieslak was stashed on the practice squad last season, but came from New England, and enters his 4th season. He is like a Heiden clone. He probably prevents Kolo from making the active roster.
This renders the Browns 3-deep at fullback (PS they've been lining Winslow up back there as well--which means so will Rucker, eventually--so maybe it's 5-deep) and 4-deep at tight end. 2 Winslow types and two Heiden types. 3-TE sets, jumbo formations, reliable short and intermediate recievers.
Well, there we go. Laugh at me now but believe me later.
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Hey Tony and Wile E.
Hey, David: I think there is a slim chance they keep four tight ends. They may be trying to market Darnell Dinkins in a possible trade for a cornerback.
Hey, Tony: Slim chance? With JJ hurt and a 2-TE base offense? With Heiden playing more fullback last season than Vicker's back-up? With Cieslak, who played some fullback with NE? With Rucker, who could easily also play fullback, and two more UFA TE's who could play fullback? OK what are your odds? Wanna bet? You're right about Dinkens though.
Hey, Tony: You have been asked ad nauseum about the inability of Phil Savage to get an experienced back behind J. Lewis. From what I have read on and in-between the lines, it seems the Browns think Lawrence Vickers could step in as the starter and then they would add a veteran to fill the vacated roster spot. Your thoughts? -- John J. Berezo, Culloden, West Virginia
Hey, John: Savage often mentions Vickers as a possibility to play in one-back sets. That could be an emergency solution during a game, but I don't see it as a viable one beyond that. There's just no speed there.
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! JEROME HARRISON IS BIGGER THAN TIKI BARBER, EMMITT SMITH, PRIEST HOLMES, JOE MORRIS, THAT GUY IN PITTSBURGH, AND OVER A DOZEN OTHER STARTING BACKS WHO WENT TO PRO BOWLS OR WON CHAMPIONSHIPS. HE WAS NEVER INJURED IN COLLEGE, WHERE HE SET A BUNCH OF RECORDS. HE BECAME A DECENT BLOCKER IN HIS SECOND SEASON, AND IS NOW POLISHING HIS RECIEVING SKILLS. JEROME HARRISON AND WRIGHT ARE SUFFICIENT. NOW SHUT UP.
Hey, Tony: I know you really want Anthony Henry back just as much as I do? What do you think it would take to get him back? -- Scott Bennett, Wickliffe, Ohio
Hey, Scott: Considering the Cowboys paid out a $1 million roster bonus to Henry just a month ago, I would think the price tag would be a second-round pick, at least. Plus, the Cowboys would have to be assured Pacman Jones is on the straight and narrow and that No. 1 pick Melvin Jenkins is ready to play significant time.
Hey, Tony: Wow, it's good to have football back. With the tight roster restrictions has there been any thought of using Cribbs as a fourth QB just so the other three don't tire out their arms before the season? -- Greg Winger, Orange Village, Ohio
Hey, Greg: Cribbs has enough on his plate. This week, Romeo Crennel conceded Cribbs would be a consideration to fill in at cornerback in an emergency situation.
Most interesting.
Friday, July 25, 2008
Adam Caplan Corrections
Adam Caplan: CM: As we've detailed for a while, there's a big need there because of the Jurevicius injury. There are a decent amount of teams that can use Parker though.
BS. Kevin Kasper still holds Iowa recieving records for most receptions and most receptions in a season. He's a larger version of Brian Brennan. His NFL history lists a bunch of teams, and his NFL stats are unimpressive. This is all Adam needs to start shoveling dirt into a premature grave. He may be coming into his own. Stand by.
Travis Wilson has made great strides, and approximates JJ. Adam is incapable of believing a rookie can fill a role unless he's a first round pick or is already doing it.
Adam, any idea of contract dollar amounts for rookies?
Adam Caplan: BR: Yes, I already gave Barry the Hall deal, the rest will be posted tomorrow.
Adam, are you concerned about JJ not returning at all?
Adam Caplan: BR: I would be at this point because of all the work done on that knee.
Huge loss if that is the case
Huge overstatement.
Adam Caplan: BR: No question but Parker, if they sign him, is an excellent slot WR.
Adam, not sure if you know but what's the reason behind an active list and an inactive list during the season? What was the reasoning behind not allowing teams to use the entire roster?
Adam Caplan: GREG: The NFL explained that to me a few years ago, kind of too detailed for this room. But it could be brought up in the new CBA talks.Adam Caplan: And don't forget they used to name the inactives on Friday's
ok, thanks... never made sense.. I always assumed it had to do with contracts
Adam Caplan: GREG: I still think it's wrong though as is the 80-man limitAdam Caplan: should be over 90
how much has Chud opened up the playbook this year?
Adam Caplan: LU: I think you'll see Harrison in more, Wilson, if he makes it, get some plays on third downs
Has Harrison improved any? He showed flashes , and we do need that kind of speed
Adam Caplan: CK: Yes, they're are happy with his progress.
Harrison needed to work on pass-catching. He never needed improvement as a ballcarrier. He didn't show flashes. He performed. Are you blind?
Any word on Law or Youboty?
Adam Caplan: PAZ: Nothing new on the CB frontAdam Caplan: My expectation is, as it has been for a while, that they get one in by middle of next month
IF one is cheap, and IF they really need one.
Adam, any word on how Tucker is progressing?
Adam Caplan: LU: The expectation is he won't be practicing until late next month
Where will Favre end up?
BROWNS questions, please. Go tune in Farve radio. It's on 24/7 and you can quit clogging up this forum!
Adam Caplan: PAZ: The guess would be KC or TBAdam Caplan: if he does come backAdam Caplan: if he decides he wants to play, GB has to deal him
Hi Adam: your thoughts on the Bengals defense - no help at DT in the draft, and a revolving door at defensivecoordinator. I'm smelling disaster there.
Adam Caplan: DONO: I like the additions of Odom and RiversAdam Caplan: but it's still not a good defenseAdam Caplan: on paperAdam Caplan: Keep in mind they wanted Dorsey or Ellis and got neither
Yay!
Adam, would they have to redo contracts to get Parker or a CB?
Adam Caplan: BR: They can get him in
Adam, are the rams still interested in Bentley? any other callers?
Adam Caplan: LU: There's not really that much interest in Bentley other than for just over veteran minimum and some
<64superfan> Adam: If the Browns have to trade for a veteran CB, who could they move? (other than future draft picks)
Adam Caplan: 64: I don't see the depth where they could give up any player to be honest
Don't equate honesty with intelligence. Bell, Williams, Davis, Jackson, and Orr makes five. Davis can be traded. Also Darnell Dinkens, who will otherwise be released. What's up with you that you can't see depth here? Can you see depth in the Atlantic ocean?
Adam, will Henry get picked up by any team, seems like Bengals are done with him?
Who cares?
Adam Caplan: BR: Dallas or OaklandAdam Caplan: would be the guessesAdam Caplan: Anyone going to camp soon?:Adam Caplan: I'll be there on 8/12Adam Caplan: TuesdayAdam Caplan: last week of campAdam Caplan: which is the best time to be there
Adam so basically the Browns made the right call on Bentley?
Adam Caplan: HO: Yes.
<64superfan> Adam: Any teams long on veteran CBs who might take a flyer on a couple of developmental guys (TEs?) inexchange for excess CB?
Adam Caplan: 64: I could see some teams getting rid of excess CBs at the end of AugustAdam Caplan: but not really before then, that position is usualy the toughest to let go
Adam, what's the early word on the CBA? Any hope or are there too many Jerry Jones issues to make it happen?
Adam Caplan: GREG: Nah, the talk is the sense of urgency won't start until 2009
Adam, didn't they give you the memo that the Browns camp was the only one worth while and that youshould be there every day?
Adam Caplan: BR: If I only covered 1 team and not 32 I'd be there more
Adam, how seriously do you take your job as Polls Forum moderator?
Adam Caplan: BOB: I don't pay attention really, I just had Barry add me so I can post what's needed
Any chance of Ty Law?
Adam Caplan: CK: As I noted last month, Andre Dyson, Law make most sense based on scheme fit
thanks... just waiting to see what the most popular league is going to do to screw things up... :)
Adam Caplan: GREG: It could get very ugly before it gets settled, even uglier this timeAdam Caplan: the NFL won't get hosed this time around
<64superfan> Adam: What's your take on the battle for backup D linemen between Rubin, Leonard, Purcell and Pittman?
Adam Caplan: 64: I have to think two of them make it
Wow that took GUTS! Ok Louis Leonard has an excellent chance due to versatility and size. Rubin may have a problem because of him, Smith, and Rogers--all of whome can play nose tackle. Pittman and Purcells are stricly DE's, and Schaefering is going to challenge them. Schaefering played for Illinois at nose tackle and wasn't invited to the combine...we know what this means to Adam.
Adam, when do you see them changing the way they do rookie contracts? I really wish they would address this issue!
Adam Caplan: JIML: Next CBA and the thing is the veteran players are pissed off about it as well
Seems like Eric Parker is considered a must get at this point
Buy a clue! Another molehill named Everest! Winslow was used at WR, and it's a two-TE base offense. A third reciever WILL emerge. "Must get" somebody instead of Winslow, Rucker, Wilson, etc....clown.
Adam Caplan: GREG: For insurance, yes
Kevin Shaffer as a rt?
Adam Caplan: R: Upper halfAdam Caplan: which is good when you consider he didn't want to play there in the first place.
<64superfan> Adam: Eric Parker a good gamble in the slot if JJ is out?
Adam Caplan: 64: Yes, he does have an injury history though
Lito Shepherd going to get moved out of Philly?
Adam Caplan: GREG: Eagles aren't looking to deal him now, too late. Some team would have to knock them over to do it andagain, Sheppard wants a new deal.
Adam Caplan: not an extension
it weird that the right side is considered the run blocking side and they averaged a yard and a half less running that way last season
Adam Caplan: BR: Pass protection wise they were solid all around
Adam, did the Redskins actually get better with the trade for Taylor?
BROWNS BROWNS BROWNS
Adam Caplan: BR: Yes, probably based on the upgrade but even so, they have no depth at DE
<64superfan> Adam: I have heard that, in a pinch, Chud might be able to do some creative schemes while JJ is out. Forexample, Heiden at TE and K2 in the slot. What's your take on that?
Adam Caplan: 64: They don't need to change much actually. If Winslow or Edwards were out, that would be hard on them.Adam Caplan: But they use a lot of two-TE as it isAdam Caplan: in that scheme
DUH!
what are the chances Rucker could excel enough to get any playing time?
Adam Caplan: DOG: He's the third TE at best so I don't think he's going to do muchAdam Caplan: they will have a package probably where Rucker and Winslow play at the same time, that we could see himdoing something
They want to preserve and protect Winslow, so if the kid comes along well, he'll get more time later in the season. Adam assumes that Winslow will play until his legs fall off, but smart Coaches take care of their players.
Are we gonna see Kasper still in a Browns uniform come week 1?
Adam Caplan: BR: He actually could make it based on the problems at WRAdam Caplan: but if Wilson makes the team and JJ is there, that ends Kasper
Adam is once again mathematicly challenged. Edwards, Stallworth, JJ, Wilson is FOUR. Kasper is an excellent kick returner and probably a good special teamer in other roles, too. They could easily carry five wide recievers.
I just read Don Banks report on Ravens camp. He says Troy Smith likely the QB starter. Do you agree? Good news for us?
Adam Caplan: DON: I wrote almost two months ago that Smith had the edge based on what the coaches thought.Adam Caplan: But it could be a close race in the end with Flacco
<64superfan> Adam: If Rucker steps up in camp and preseason games, I would think Chud could set up some interestingscenarios with him and K2 in the game at the same time, no?
Adam Caplan: 64: That's what I just mentioned, you could see a few packages with both in the game for defenses to have ahard time adjusting to
Adam, did it surprise you that Ravens would not consider bringing in Farve?Adam Caplan: BR: They want to develop Flacco as soon as possible
adam what is your opinion on who will be starting at ILB?
Adam Caplan: BL: Jackson and Bell would be the early guess but we're a long way away of having an idea
What would happen with Andra Davis then Adam?
Adam Caplan: BLE: Bench or goneAdam Caplan: But then again, depth isn't great
Dumbass.
Adam, what teams are the front office people you talk to buzzing about this year?Adam Caplan: GREG: CLE, DAL, PHI, ARI of all teams, scary
Bell...really!! you think has a chance to make the starting lineup?
Adam Caplan: JIM: Sure, they want a physical downhill LB, he's that
Better believe it! He whacks people in the hole or their backfield. Williams and Jackson are a little faster, but Bell reacts as well as any linebacker. He'll make a big difference behind the new defensive line.
Whisenhunt's making progress... wasn't he on the Browns' staff under Belichick?
WHO CARES?
Adam Caplan: GREG: you might be right, don't recall.
Adam Caplan: They were 8-8 last year and that division is badAdam Caplan: BTW, I'll be at Vikings next Weds so the chat will be moved up to Monday at 9pm ET
Adam what do you think about Ryan Tucker going to pup as for now?
Adam Caplan: BL: He can come off at any time when you're on there
How does Pool rank as a safety?
Adam Caplan: PAZ: Middle with upside
In the second half of last season (his first as a starter) he was easily in the top 33%.
Whisenhunt was on the Browns' staff in 1999, special teams coach according to wikipedia
How exciting!
Adam Caplan: GREG: Cool, former NFL TE with ATL and NYJAdam Caplan: backup though, special teamer
Adam, is this really the first year where we will make suprise cuts due to talent on the team?
Adam Caplan: BR: Competition is really good this year, that I can tell you.
What is amazing to me is the difference between this year and last year!! Things seem a whole lot more stable and calm
Adam Caplan: JIM: And don't forget John Collins/Savage stuff 3 years ago
Adam... is this the year Pool lives up to his expectations?
Adam Caplan: CT: Time will tell, but the more he plays the better off he is. It doesn't hurt that the DC was his secondary coach,
> Adam have you heard anything about future trades?
Adam Caplan: BL: Sure, that could happen with a CB later as camp progresses, they will get a CB one way or the other
Savage is not running for office, and is not lying or hedging when he says he wants to check out the young talent on the team first. Adam and a lot of you think that a veteran is critical. Savage and Mel Tucker do not.
adam can the browns win the super bowl this year
Adam Caplan: BR: I can't see them getting there based on problems at CB and inconsistency of the Ss
Here we go again. Two of the safeties (inc. Baxter, who will stick) can play a zone corner, and at least two of the rookies can man-cover. There will be more man coverage based on the skill-sets of the prominent DB's. Pool was a first-time starter last season, Jones his second, and it was their first season together. Pool came on strong in the second half. The scheme has been streamlined to allow the players to stop thinking and play. Adam is unable to extrapolate. He only knows history, and is perennially surprised when young players mature.
Adam, are you pleasantly surprised with Rodgers weight right now?
Adam Caplan: BR: The thing is the effort has to be there consistentlyAdam Caplan: and they do have enough players that he doesn't have to be on the field for much more than half the plays
We heard a lot about missing Russell last year as the general in the secondary, is S. Jones gonna step up into that role this year?
Adam Caplan: BR: The key for a veteran safety is to make sure the guys near him are lined up correctly and the communication is good. Jonescan do that.
He was about the third-best safety in the AFC last season. What's he supposed to "step up" to--the Hall of Fame? JEEZ!
Scary that Rodgers is the key to our D-Line being disruptive
Adam Caplan: BR: He's one of them.
1: A disruptinve 3-4 DL is exceptional. It's not their schematic function. 2: Corey Williams is also disruptive. The depth players who will stay on the roster will be chosen partly based on their ability to penetrate. Your shadow is scary too, no doubt.
Adam, does Cribbs repeat his numbers, or will more teams kick away from him?Adam Caplan: LU: I think he'll be solid again, but as good as last year will be hard to do.
Word is Rogers production follows the teams path, as they fade, so does he.
Adam Caplan: BIG: The thing is, it's not all about him, they have depth and talent around him.Adam Caplan: And if he's bad, he won't be back, as I reported a few weeks ago, he has a roster bonus for next year.
Rogers has played nearly every down, and here will get more time off. Rogers performance dropped at times due to fatigue, triple-teams, and lane discipline...although he did indeed get lazy too.
Adam Caplan: As does Stallworth-big one
Adam, are you surprised so many late 1st round picks are still unsigned?Adam Caplan: BR: No because a lot of camps don't open for a few more daysAdam Caplan: All: That's all the time I have, see you this Monday at 9pm.Adam Caplan: later
D+
Adam seems to lack imagination, and should try thinking ahead just a little. Basic assumptions can be made, such as 1: Young players more often improve than they stagnate and decline. 2: Schematic alterations tend to accomodate available personel and in turn 3: alter personel requirements. 4: Trends are valid, and tend to continue.
Adam was also caught with a squirt gun, and sleeps in class.
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Training Camp and Roster Perdictions
Andra Davis: Could be traded.
If he isn't, we have too many linebackers. Jackson and Williams are faster and better in coverage. As we will see, Beau Bell can also cover, and in other respects is like Davis at his best. With Shantee Orr also inside at times--that's too many, and Davis is the oldest.
It's just business.
Antwan Peek, of he remains healthy for the first time in his carreer, is a beast. Ififif, he is a proven passrusher who is bigger and stronger than Wimbley. Willie McGinest is not the passrusher he once was, but has actually become pretty darn good against the run. He's very difficult to block, and anticipates well.
The top four defensive linemen are etched in stone, and two of these are nose tackles. Louis Leonard is actually a very talented player who can play on the nose or the end, and has some little NFL experience. He is due to emerge in this, his third season. His experience and versatility give him an edge over other contenders for the last two spots. Listen to me: This guy is a playa.
The Browns could carry eight linebackers. At this point those look like Jackson, Bell, Orr, Peek, Wimbley, Williams, Davis, and McGinest. Using the inactive list, it's possible that both Hall and Ortiz could make it sorta), but it would be better to turn Davis into a...Anthony Henry, or something. (And yes Ortiz is listed as a DE but he has no chance there. He's a linebacker or nothing).
I don't count out David McMillan. It's make-or-break time for him, though. He's got the pass-rush thing down, but I guess he's trying to master the regular linebacker stuff. He might or might not.
Rubin is a nose tackle. Don't expect him to be much of a defensive end. He's really going to have to prove something...although they'd probably try to sneak him onto the practice squad if he's unable to crack the top six yet.
Pittman and Purcells are bigger now, and strictly defensive ends. I have no idea what they will do. A major monkey wrench for them is one Brian Schaefering, and undrafted free agent who played nose tackle at Illinois. He's 6'4", 286 right now--and is obviously a strong player who uses leverage well.
Without the pads on, he showed great hand-use and moves as a passrusher from the DE slot. He could push the aforementioned duo aside and actually make the roster! (Oh I hear you, Yoda: "It's far too early to know--" Yeah yeah oh wise sage).
Schaefering was a sleeper, playing out-of-position at Illinois. As a nose tackle, he was double-teamed and had to deal with the run first. 286 is smallish for a 3-4 NFL defensive end, but as a nose tackle he had to be pretty damn strong, and have a good mastery of leverage.
True, there were no pads on, but much can still be learned from his performance. The blockers were still trying to get their hands on him and stay in his path, and he beat them. He showed surprising explosion and game-speed.
While this guy doesn't project to make the top six in a normal rotation (at this point), he could surprise everybody but the Coaches and me by making the final roster. This is because he MIGHT be able to play as a situational down passrusher.
The reasons are several: This defense will deploy a 4-5 lineman front on passing downs. Schaefering could provide an opportunity to rest one of the other guys. As a former nose tackle, he has no problem handling traffic inside, and if his job is to penetrate, you don't worry about him holding a gap or a point.
And then there's the fact that he's actually more of a 4-3 DE than the 3-4 version. No other defensive linmeman on the roster could shift to or line up outside the tackle (at least as well as a 4-3 DE). (3-4 DE's are normally hybrid tackles because they actually line up on the guard's outside shoulders, and are subject to leverage blocks and double-teams).
Have I lost you yet? Try and stay with me: Sportwriters like everything in neat consistant boxes, so they want the outside linebackers to always just become defensive ends outside two defensive linemen. This is a good base-set and is true on the most basic cookie-cutter 3-4 level.
But (trust me) the Browns would prefer not to use Shantee Orr in this way, whether he was a college DE or not. He's too short to overcome the tackle's reach advantage and get outside him. Wimbley and Peek--no problem, but if one is injured, there is an issue here. Alex Hall, if he makes the roster based on special teams and this specific role, could do it...
But every offense is different. Some will deploy two tight ends on third and long (including this offense). Some have lighter, athletic offensive linemen, and others big hogs. Some have scat-backs who can catch flares, run delayed draws...there are a lot of variables.
And third-down packages are designed specificly to defeat a conventional 3-4 passing alignment. Schaefering breaks the mold, and is a monkey-wrench. Even if he doesn't fill in situationally for one of the OLB's, he could penetrate from a conventional tackle position, and give one of those guys a break instead.
Just a thought--he IS still a dark-horse, and Hall/Ortiz effect this formula. There's always the practice squad for the losers, of they make it, and Schaefering should. And they'd like that, because he's 6'4" and could return next season at over 300 lbs.
On the offensive side, they will probably carry four tight ends and Vickers. This is because the offense is a base two-TE one, and because probably two of the tight ends can line up at fullback. Rucker is a "wing" TE like Winslow, although they want him to learn the ropes as a Heiden-type in-line conventional TE as well. Heiden lined up at fullback fairly often last season, and this offers a clue to Chud's plans. Rucker and other new canditates are all capable of filling this role, sooner or later.
Look at New England, which at times fields THREE tight ends.
Here, Chud adapted to his personnel, but this system is becoming entrenched. Both TE's are the possession-recievers and primary outlets. Every TE must be a reliable reciever. If Vickers goes down, at least two of them could line up at fullback. The defense is never sure where Heiden will go when Vickers isn't there.
This alignment can go deep or play smashmouth, and (as you will see) will show no clear tendancy for a defense to key on.
Jamal Lewis will catch more passes.
Rodney Harrisonfield will play more.
Travis Wilson will become what he was, when healthy, in college, and answer concerns about the third or fourth reciever. Rucker needs work. Not sure what they'll do there.
We don't have a huge depth problem at tackle, Chicken Little. Schaeffer can move to the left side and Tucker go back to the right. It's also ignorant to dis the depth simply because you haven't seen them.
More later.
Monday, July 7, 2008
Chicken Little, Ty Law, and Defense
No, Ty Law won't take the league minimum, or accept a back-up role yet. And if he doesn't, the Browns won't sign him. And no, we're not all gonna die if we don't get an old, old cornerback to step in for McDonald or Holly.
Another thing: I keep hearing these guys on Favre Radio picking the Stoolers to win the Division. Another guy said he didn't think the Browns could do it. He said "Last year they surprised everybody, but this year, they'll be ready for them". He also pointed out that the Browns had one of the worst defenses in football.
And the Stooler FANS--"It's a given".
Let's look at this RATIONALLY, shall we?
Let's measure improvement:
QB: While Rossenmuncher is still young and improving, Anderson (and Quinn) have just got started. They will make a bigger leap.
RB: Pretty even, really. Except that the Browns will probably be giving Harrison more of a chance.
Oline: Need I say more? Oh I forgot--Stooler fan: Ok, well they lost Faneca. While they had young guys on the roster, and (let's be objective Browns fans) have a history of doing well there--aint no Fanecas there. Meanwhile, Joe Thomas was only a rookie last season. Last season was the first that this group was together. The Browns offensive line is moving foreward. The Steelers is stagnant at best.
Recievers (inc. TE). Well, the Stoolers drafted this big tall guy, Limas Sweed, who's going to be really good. But how much longer is that old guy going to be great? The Browns signed Stallworth. Wilson is emerging. All the same, I guess you could call it even, and I wouldn't even argue much when a Stooler fan asserts greater improvement by their heroes.
So on offense in general, the Browns will be much better. Especially when you factor in that Chud's system was brand new, and not even completely implemented, or adapted to these unique players.
D-line: Well, the Stoolers are basicly stagnant, and aging. The Browns went out and got two studs, drafted a promising nose tackle, and have two or three young guys who could well emerge into very solid players. Here the difference between the two teams is stark and irrefutable (by non-Pittsburgers). The Browns will improve dramaticly.
Linebackers: Stoolers about the same. The Browns drafted Belle and signed Shantee Orr. D'Qwell Jackson is still young and improving, Belle will most likely force his way into the starting line-up, Williams (another young and improving guy) will compete inside and outside, and Peek might...for once...remain healthy.
To be honest, I haven't checked the Stoolers draft--but it just doesn't matter. The Browns linebacking corps is improving, in a hurry. The Stoolers...not so much.
Secondary: Not sure on the Stoolers. The Browns starting safeties are young and improving--this will be Pool's second season starting, and the tandem's second season together. Depth at safety has taken a big step, as Baxter is added to the mix. Cornerback is more of a mixed bag. While McDonald enters his second season, and was good as a rookie, and Wright has the talent to become an elite corner, there is a legit issue at who steps in if either is injured.
TWO brand spanking new cornerbacks have showed surprising promise; both with press/man abilities, and when Savage says he wants to see more of them before signing an old guy, he means it. Did you hear me? Savage means what he says (in this case).
Can't be definitive here, not having really checked out the Stoolers, but let's just call it a wash.
Defense: Browns much better. Stoolers the same, and maybe weaker.
OK are we comprehending that the Browns have out-improved the Stoolers on both offense and defense, I hope. What was the score of the last game between them? What were their records?
OK so start using your brains at least a little. Hell, you even have a template! Look at what Savage did with the offensive line prior to last season! It went from one of the worst to one of the best, overnight! Now, with a three-man base defensive line, Savage signs those two high-profile vets, and...
...and what? Some goober is pointing out one of the worst defenses in football last season, as if these changes are irrelevant!
Won't sneak up on anybody? So for the second half of last season they were still sneaking up on people? Why the hell would they need to be underestimated when one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL returns mostly intact and even slightly upgraded, with a second-year starting QB?
Why be sneaking when you've just replaced 66% of your starting d-line with STUDS, added depth out the wazoo, improved the linebacking corps, and have at least a very good starting secondary quartet?
JEEZ these PEOPLE!!!
Oh...not you. Stoolers fans. You're OJ jurors and all this "DNA" stuff doesn't matter.
YOU STAND CORRECTED.
Monday, June 30, 2008
Lane Adkins
1 - I can not remember a Browns team being as focused, prepared and as willing to help other teammates on technique, etc. as I viewed the past couple months.
2 - Veteran OLB Willie McGinest spent time working with OLB's and DE's with their hand-fighting and moves at the point of attack. It is quite interesting watching a veteran of this caliber working with the talent in camp settings, McGinest leads by example.
I'm glad they signed and kept him. I don't think he was ever here to be more than a hold-the-fort guy as a player, but he sure knows all the dirty tricks, and is willing to share them. He's able to coach both OLB and DE, and teach the pass-rush stuff to everybody else. I hope when he retires, they can keep him around as a position coach.
3 - OLB Antwan Peek has been a man on a mission in these sessions. I anxiously wait for the training camp sessions to begin to see if his dominating presence remains intact when the pads go on.
Well, he's about 270 lbs., has done this before, and has recovered from his injuries.
Also, OLB Shantee Orr showed me that he is a player wgi knows how to get to the QB. His role is rising within the defensive scheme, as well as being a solid specials player.
Like I said, he was brought here as a utility inside/outside linebacker, and he will get a good share of playing time. He helps make this corps very deep, and will help keep it healthy.
4 - NT/DE Shaun Rogers is physically imposing, and has talent and quickness. I haven't seen a player like this in camp in a long time. His presence on the field in non-contact drills has been impressive and I believe he is going to be a huge acquisition for this team.
They should rotate heavily, and Rogers can be kept fresh. He'll play both DE and on the nose. Offensive lines won't know who they're blocking until they come to the line. There can be a lot of shifting and stunting with these guys--a center's nightmare. If he plays to his potential, he's been called by some the best defensive tackle in the NFL.
5 - While CB Eric Wright has been impressive in press coverage, I would be remiss in not acknowledging the presence undrafted rookies Mil'von James and Damon Jenkins have played in the defensive backfield. Each player possesses speed and quickness. James is more of the flashy player, while Jenkins is more consistent.
I didn't know about Jenkins! That makes TWO UFA's who showed promise. But in re Mil'von--the fact that he got his hands on so many balls indicates an understanding of this zone scheme. That's critical, and the main reason why a number of experts are still mindlessly repeating the need for a veteran third cornerback. Zone is complex, and the corner must read all the recievers, and make the correct moves. If one of them errs, the QB spots it instantly and he's toast. So a veteran is much, much safer.
However, as I said--while by design most 3-4's are 2 deep zones, it's not etched in stone. Man is mixed in, and with the right athletes you can man-up on both sides for a whole game. From what I've read, both these guys can man cover.
Let's keep the YOUNG guys.
6 - The linebackers appear quicker and are lighter than a season ago. Much rides on the play of the defensive line, but quickness in general at linebacker is improved. It will be interesting to see rookie LB Beau Bell when the pads go on. I am one of many curious to see whether the lights come on for the young man when the hitting starts.
Gimme a break! That's a foregone conclusion. They'll have to keep a leash on him tom keep him from creaming everybody.
7 - WR Travis Wilson looks much like the player this organization anticipated when selecting him out of Oklahoma. Interestingly, Wilson is running solid routes, making catches and most importantly has knowledge of what the expectations are. For the first time, Wilson is consistent in getting his head around in receiving drills. This may seem to fall into 'who cares ' type category, but to succeed at this level a receiver needs to get his head around, find the ball in-flight and fight for the reception. Wilson has been on the mark.
I TOLD you, don't give up on this guy YET. He was reliable and sure-handed in college. Stallworth has a dubious history, and the team needs insurance. Hubbard is too raw for this season. This is great news. IF he stays on the track he's on, Wilson can help a lot. He's another big target who can run after the catch.
8 - Remember it is very early, but I did not see 'real' improvement in the short-passing game of Derek Anderson, nor in the long / down-field vertical game of Brady Quinn.
I did not want to hear that. Therefore, you must be wrong.
9 - Patiently waiting for RB Jerome Harrison to get a legitimate chance on game-day. We all know of his blocking issues (which he has worked on) and being a player on specials, but this young man works as hard as any player in camp in drills and remains on the field after sessions working on ball-handling and receiving drills. I see a player with great vision, an instinctive runner with power and quickness and much improved ball handling/securing skills.
His blocking issues are long since resolved. Having analyzed more stuff between the lines, I believe the most important single issue was his route-running and discipline as a reciever.
Power? Well of that's true, there goes the dude's only weakness. Power would make him a stud. Not unlikely, either. He came into his second camp at 217, all muscle. Last off-season he worked out with Jamal Lewis and his trainers. He'll never be a battering ram like Lewis, but if he can break arm-tackles and muscle through small holes, he's the total package.
I read this idiot post "I'm on record as saying that the two biggest needs are cornerback and running back." This bigshot goes on to dis Wright and Harrison, saying that niether can carry the load for extended periods. Two factors at work here: 1: This guy thinks Harrison still weighs 190 lbs. In New York, he would have written off Tiki Barber, who likewise gained a bunch of muscle, and in his last two seasons led the league in yards-after-contact. 2: He thinks that because he couldn't beat out Jamal Lewis, that's all he'll ever be.
Idiot.
10 - Watching starting safety Brodney Pool deep in the defensive backfield discussing the sets and scheme with defensive backs coach Cory Undlin when other players are in drills. The play of the safeties were an issue last season and seeing Pool spending the time with the coach is promising, as the safety is a talented and athletic back.
Pool can man-cover tight ends and some bigger recievers. In his second year as a starter, he should approach his peak, and be a real stud.
Baxter has a great chance of making it as a safety. He started 8-9 games there for the Ravens. He has all the skills and knowlege to rotate in, including in a three-safety set.
Also, Grossi recently wrote that Baxter's injuries limitted his mobility. That is an assumption. The patellar ligaments have nothing whatsoever to do with turning or driving. While he may be labelled a safety, if I'm right HE could be the veteran cornerback in a zone scheme.
Head that anywhere else? I thought not.