He likened them to a construction crew. Do you want a house built overnight (with cheap materials and hastily), or one that's well planned? Solid foundation. Insulated. 50-year roof.
I still like my temper-tantrum "now now now!" analogy in re the impatient fans he's addressing.
I keep hearing it. Same old Browns. The owner is in his second season, the Joe Banner and the coaches in their first! "Same old"? Slap yourself, okay?
Sure, we've been through this over and over, and been disappointed every time so far. But NONE of these guys was here! And no, there's NOT a bunch of loser or stupid in the water! These guys are great at what they do, and will keep being great.
Oh yeah, Lombardi. Well how much damage has he done so far, aside from getting that bumb Hoyer in here?
By the way, Joe Banner is technically in charge of personnel. He takes input from Lombardi and the coaches, so Mikey is just one of five voices (don't forget the highly regarded Farmer).
More on Lombardi: Okay calling the Weeden pick "panic" was idiotic, but he was right about Weeden, and right about Hoyer. He came here being blamed for the Oakland Raiders drafts, as if he actually made ANY of those picks.
Whether or not he's really a great judge of talent, he has something in common with Gil Brandt: an encyclopedic memory. He knows all the stats of all the players. He knows about their character and personal lives. He's a valuable resource, in the role he's in here.
Had to copy/paste this fan comment following a Tony Grossi article on espncleveland.com:
I like Campbell for Hoyer's backup next year. Draft one of the studs coming out, develop him for a couple years, and stick with Hoyer as starter for 2 seasons and let's see where it goes.
Now here's a guy who gets it. 'Nuff said.
I watched a Peter King interview of Josh Gordon, which was my first chance to hear the guy speak in person. He seems pretty together and intelligent. I doesn't neccesarily mean that he'll stay out of trouble, but it's a good sign.
By the way, do you remember when that reporter who accused him of loafing here, he had a bumb wheel? I do. They don't want him aggravating an injury so they probably TOLD him to take it easy DUH.
More on this: Teddy Bruschi: "He's obviously not Calvin Johnson but--"
What's he got to do? And just in general, what's with all this "turning into--", "emerging as" stuff? That was last season. He's been lights out all this season! He HAS emerged! He IS an elite reciever, and might be BETTER than Johnson!
Quit rolling your eyes look at the stats! Think with your brain, not your preconceptions--ADAPT! He is doing what he is doing, period. Go with the stats: That is Josh Gordon having missed two games.
We're negative around here, just in general. Like Campbell: He kicks ass for two games, then injures his ribs. So now he sucks. Why doesn't it occur to anybody else that his injury caused this? Why does it have to be "that's Campbell--up and down" when that's not true either!
He's not good coming off the bench. He was putrid in one game in Chicago. But for most of his career he's been fairly consistant as a good-but-not-great quarterback. If he was "up-and-down" I guess that's fluctuating between average and great.
But this is Cleveland. Instead of just accepting the articles about his rib injury, you read that and keep repeating this "up-and-down" crap!
WEDONE is up-and-down! He's not in the same ballpark as Campbell! (and no I didn't misspell his name by accident).
It probably won't be enough to beat Doctor Evil and company in New England tomorrow, but at least they're talking like the week off helped his ribs heal, so he should be able to do some damage if he gets any time...
And I doubt that because Bill will attack to keep the offense to 3-step drops and Gordon from going vertical on him.
But there's an outside chance here, because the crosses and slants are Campbell's favorite passes, so in a way Bill has to play to his strength.
I just think this will be his approach because Gordon is scarier than Campbell.
Not that Bill has much to worry about. Josh could score like 4 times and Brady will just outscore him.
Yeah I know. Now I sound negative too.
You know what could save the Browns? If the damn offensive line can actually pick up a blitze once in awhile.
Ah yes, the screen pass. Give it up. They don't have a guard who can get in position quickly enough.
And anybody can be stopped, including the Pats offense. Okay well I mean slowed down. This defense does have the horses inside to cave in that pocket and get Brady off his mark.
See some people don't know this, but preventing a QB from stepping up is the real key, and this could even include a decked defensive lineman laying there. The QB can't step on him so he has to throw off his back foot or move.
Taylor, Rubin, and company can get that done, even against this offensive line.
Then they'll run all over us ok I give up.
Mock Drafts: Some mock drafts don't have the Browns' drafting a quarterback with their first pick. I'm not sure I understand why, since I'll bet if you ask the same people what they think of Hoyer, they'd be uncertain.
As usual, many are clueless: One identified inside linebacker as a "glaring need", and several seem to think that wide reciever is urgent.
More urgent than running back, guard (RT), and in some cases quarterback.
Another stud wide reciever would be great, but the problems the Browns offense have been having in both the pass and the run are more about the offensive line.
The inside linebacker one--wow. Sure a superstud would be an upgrade, but you identify this as a top need?
Carr seems to be the QB most often mentioned. One thing scares me about him: His brother.
Currently ranked ninth overall and second at quarterback by CBS, for the moment he looks pretty good, and a great fit. He's a pocket passer who has really nice mobility as a bonus.
He's a senior, so he has some experience. According to Bob Rang, this season he's refined his touch to go with his great arm, and throws with anticipation (very very important--Weeden didn't).
I doubt that any of this has anything whatsoever to do with why many mock drafters see the Browns' drafting Carr. It's all about being number nine and number two, respectively. That's an easy wild guess to make.
One mocker had them drafting Manziel seventh overall. I doubt that.
Brett Hundley has slid all the way to 41 overall and fourth among QB's (behind Manziel), but I can't really see why.
His analysis was another maddening one. He's very accurate but his placement is a work in progress. He sets up and delivers quickly, and scrambles with his eyes downfield extremely well, but must work on feeling the rush and finding targets quicker.
This analyst has all his bases covered, doesn't he?
He fits well here too, as he runs an aggressive deep-ball offense. He's both bigger and faster than Carr, and sounds a little like Cam Newton.
One thing I saw about Carr that Hundley doesn't show is those anticipation throws. It's very hard for some guys to throw the ball to a reciever whose back is to him; to throw to the "spot" where the reciever is supposed to meet the ball.
Hundley has a 10:1 touchdown-to-pick ratio, which is pretty stunning considering that he throws so many deep passes. He plays at a higher level of competition than Carr (but like I've said big deal he's a quarterback).
UCLA has a bad history with quarterbacks who are drafted. They haven't panned out. This could force his stock down too.
Hundley might not even come out in this draft, but I hope he does. Norv can figure out the anticipation thing, he wouldn't have to start right away, and it's even possible that he could go in the twenties; that the Browns could (YES,TONY) trade down and still get him, or get him with their second first-rounder.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about any of these guys other than what I read.
Like, I know that Hundley is very accurate but isn't, has a quick release but holds the ball, eludes the rush but can't feel it...
Mock Drafts: Some mock drafts don't have the Browns' drafting a quarterback with their first pick. I'm not sure I understand why, since I'll bet if you ask the same people what they think of Hoyer, they'd be uncertain.
As usual, many are clueless: One identified inside linebacker as a "glaring need", and several seem to think that wide reciever is urgent.
More urgent than running back, guard (RT), and in some cases quarterback.
Another stud wide reciever would be great, but the problems the Browns offense have been having in both the pass and the run are more about the offensive line.
The inside linebacker one--wow. Sure a superstud would be an upgrade, but you identify this as a top need?
Carr seems to be the QB most often mentioned. One thing scares me about him: His brother.
Currently ranked ninth overall and second at quarterback by CBS, for the moment he looks pretty good, and a great fit. He's a pocket passer who has really nice mobility as a bonus.
He's a senior, so he has some experience. According to Bob Rang, this season he's refined his touch to go with his great arm, and throws with anticipation (very very important--Weeden didn't).
I doubt that any of this has anything whatsoever to do with why many mock drafters see the Browns' drafting Carr. It's all about being number nine and number two, respectively. That's an easy wild guess to make.
One mocker had them drafting Manziel seventh overall. I doubt that.
Brett Hundley has slid all the way to 41 overall and fourth among QB's (behind Manziel), but I can't really see why.
His analysis was another maddening one. He's very accurate but his placement is a work in progress. He sets up and delivers quickly, and scrambles with his eyes downfield extremely well, but must work on feeling the rush and finding targets quicker.
This analyst has all his bases covered, doesn't he?
He fits well here too, as he runs an aggressive deep-ball offense. He's both bigger and faster than Carr, and sounds a little like Cam Newton.
One thing I saw about Carr that Hundley doesn't show is those anticipation throws. It's very hard for some guys to throw the ball to a reciever whose back is to him; to throw to the "spot" where the reciever is supposed to meet the ball.
Hundley has a 10:1 touchdown-to-pick ratio, which is pretty stunning considering that he throws so many deep passes. He plays at a higher level of competition than Carr (but like I've said big deal he's a quarterback).
UCLA has a bad history with quarterbacks who are drafted. They haven't panned out. This could force his stock down too.
Hundley might not even come out in this draft, but I hope he does. Norv can figure out the anticipation thing, he wouldn't have to start right away, and it's even possible that he could go in the twenties; that the Browns could (YES,TONY) trade down and still get him, or get him with their second first-rounder.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about any of these guys other than what I read.
Like, I know that Hundley is very accurate but isn't, has a quick release but holds the ball, eludes the rush but can't feel it...
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