Below are fan comments on a Grossi article in which he thorized as to the reasons for Quinn's replacement of DA as the starter.
WOW. Thought I wouldn't see this all season. What a welcomed change. I just hope he's all that he has been expected to be.
GO BROWNS!!!!
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Posted by kerplunk38 on 11/03/08 at 6:51PM
Glad to see Brady in there - but my only complaint is that its durring a short week. Is this setting Brady up to fail?
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Did the CIA kill JFK? Are the Rothchild's running the world? Was 911 an inside job?
Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 6:52PM
Dear, SWEET baby Jesus, it's true...but as I predicted last week, they waited exactly one game too long to get him in and save the season. On the bright side, next year is looking a whole lot better.
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You don't replace a QB after a good game.
Posted by tdprog12 on 11/03/08 at 6:53PM
Hate to say it but I think BE's 14 or so drops this year is just as bad if not worse than DA's play.
Tony brings up a good point about the no huddle. I think the Browns are the only team in the NFL that does not run the no huddle as a change of pace.
With our O-Line Brady should shred the Broncos horrible D. If you have Winslow on your fantasy team congratulations he will have a huge day.
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Intelligent life in Cleveland!!! AMEN on Edwards' drops! He has probably lost us more games than he's won! The Browns should probably be 5-3 instead of the reverse--and it's maddening, because all of last season he caught everything--how can the butthead go backwards like this? At least Quinn won't get blamed for them like DA was...
The offense won't look the same. Chud will tailor it to what Quinn does best. It'll work.
Posted by BigDawgy54 on 11/03/08 at 6:53PM
IT'S ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME!!!!!!!!!NEXT.....WE NEED CHUDZINSKI (PLEASE EXCUSE SPELLING) IN FOR CRENNEL!!!!!!!It's a shame the Browns took half a season to see/realize what fans already knew.Browns fans know football!!!!That's why Browns fans critisize when they do. Browns fans are truly the 12th man in the game.Maybe the Browns would do well to listen to their very knowledgable and faithful fan base!GO BROWNS! GO BQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This may be one small step for the Browns but, it's a giant leap for Browns fans!!!!!!
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Most of the people who post here are clueless, and repeat stuff they heard that sounds schmardt.
Posted by kerplunk38 on 11/03/08 at 6:53PM
Glad to see Brady in there - but like any Cleveland fan I still have to complain - its durring a short week. Is this setting Brady up to fail on his frist start?
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That's insane. Even if he has a rocky game, he'll remain the starter next week. Savage drafted him. RAC? Even if he would--like he does the Ghost--Savage wouldn't.
Posted by jungledawg32 on 11/03/08 at 6:58PM
Apparently RAC said earlier in the day Anderson would remain the starter. Was he overruled by Savage? While the change was definitely needed I think RAC was going to stick with DA all season. While the players may love RAC it's obvious he's in over his head. Now, let's see what Brady can do the rest of this year and in the future with Bill Cowher. Go Browns!!
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More intelligent life in Cleveland!!!
Posted by geo590 on 11/03/08 at 6:59PM
he's in for the long haul now - there's no way they'll take him out after one game... we're desperate so, you never know, he may be the second coming of joe montana and win us 7 straight... now is the right time to make the switch
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Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 7:00PM
He will be fine my brotha...Brady has been preparing for this from day one. And do you honestly think he can look any worse than DA?
Does this mean that Romeo must now actually say the previously unmentionable name of "the other guy"? It's okay Romeo...if you manage not to get fired, you can thank "the other guy" for saving your a$$.
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DAMMIT! BQ might indeed keep Romeo here!
Posted by maurerma on 11/03/08 at 7:00PM
Praise the Lord!!! Now just get rid of Crennel and Edwards and we're on our way to the playoffs. Jurevicius being out has killed this team. What I would ask for Christmas is meaningful games in December. Brady might be Santa Claus this year.
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Posted by grozatoe on 11/03/08 at 7:03PM
One of the things that distinguishes great NFL QB's from clip board holders is a sense of presence...a command of the huddle and the game situation. A great QB inspires confidence. Did DA EVER show any of that in almost 2 years???!
DA is a cannon arm attached the a fragile psyche. A guy who crumbles. A guy who folds up and tucks his tail when he is stressed out. You can't have that in a franchise QB.
So Quinn is shorter, doesn't have the arm, and has no experience. We still need to see if he has the intangibles to be a leader of men. DA does not.
Yes, Edwards is worthless and K2 is another me first player from the U (who gives 110%) but maybe id Quinn can get an accurate pass to these guys ON time we can have a decent passing attack again. NO quinn can't catch or block...but maybe he can step up and be the kind of player that his teammates respect and play for. 'Bout time. Good luck BQ.
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Not bad.
Posted by loyalbrnsfan on 11/03/08 at 7:04PM
here we go again... wahwahwah what a bunch of cry babies...
Quinn will be just fine stop complaining.
You got what you wanted..
Denvers defense sucks...
Go Browns!!!!!
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Uh...what?
Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 7:06PM
BQ may be shorter, but he will not nearly have the number of passes knocked down that DA did.
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Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 7:08PM
loyal! Back on the meds...NOW!!!
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Yeah!
Posted by ricomon on 11/03/08 at 7:09PM
If in his 1st game BQ looks confused, clumsy, and throws a couple picks he will still look as good as DA.
However, I don't expect that. Those of you making excuses for DA will be surprised to see how much better everyone else plays when they have a field general that is a true leader!!!
It feels like a ton of bricks has just been lifted off the city of Cleveland!
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He's probably right. We've already seen him run the no-huddle admirably, albeit in preseason. He was knocked for throwing short a lot, but the point is, those balls were on the money. The arm thing is overstated: Quinn has a strong arm--just not a howitzer like DA's. He can and will go deep--just not so often. Don't worry, Braylon. You will get to drop some more passes.
Posted by bellycheck on 11/03/08 at 7:10PM
Savage drafted Quinn so the Ravens could not.Then when Flacco beat the Browns for the second time, that strategy went down the toilet and the writing was on the wall. A fuse had to be lit.Will this save Romeo's job? For his sake, its his last hope.
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Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 7:16PM
Romeo is slooooowwwwwwwwww...if only this move could've been made ONE friggin game earlier...ahhhhhhhhhh!!!
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Posted by elfinbrowns on 11/03/08 at 7:21PM
gee Tony could you stuff DA.under the bus more?and maybe burn rubber on his carcass.also our so called coaching staff can be the speed bumps...
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Posted by ckNikka on 11/03/08 at 7:22PM
As someone else said... Brady can't block and catch... but with the season gone down the tubes time to look at something new... I think I would have waited until after Denver... but go for it... also... get some of the play calling back that we had just a week ago... Let Heiden play more and let lewis run something besides between the tackles... the QB change could make the game at least fun to watch... don't forget we have a average defence at best... I have been a fan from 1960 and there is no fast fix for this team...all of us are just so starved so weary of it all ... we do need a new coach and I am sorry that Mike S got to SF... but we will see...anyway Go Browns!
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The defense is damn good, nimrod! And the offense is loaded. Quinn will succeed BECAUSE of the blocking and cachin...oh yeah...Edwards...nevermind.
Posted by fsuseminoles on 11/03/08 at 7:25PM
Let's hope he's the real deal, or else we'll begin to see Cleveland's window of opportunity close real quickly. And it's barely open as it is.
Shaun Rogers is getting up there in age. Edwards will be a free agent. Winslow wants out and is gone. Lewis is getting old. Corey Williams is looking to be overpaid. Stallworth needs to be cut.
Looking ahead to the future, the offensive line is about the only bright spot on offense.
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Not bad, but a bit over the top. Williams has improved in his new postion, and he and Rogers have a good three seasons left. Stallworth was best available--he's always nicked up somehow. Lewis has a lot of carries, but is still young. Two wide-outs in waiting on the practice squad with great potential. You forgot Rucker, and what we could trade some of these guys for.
Posted by jdawg8 on 11/03/08 at 7:34PM
Savage is clearly the man in charge and making the moves. If Quinn comes out and lights it up and we still miss the playoff then Romeo is gone. He waited way to long to make a move with Carthon and Savage had to step in and make the switch for him and now the same thing has happened with DA and Quinn.
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I think that's exactly correct.
Posted by cbusdawg77 on 11/03/08 at 7:34PM
"NEXT.....WE NEED CHUDZINSKI (PLEASE EXCUSE SPELLING) IN FOR CRENNEL!!!!!!!"
If you think Chud and his weak playcalling in his 2nd year is a better answer - youre kidding yourself. Crennel gets plenty of blame but players need to play up to the level of their pay. Chud needs to game plan a heck of a lot better.
Think the O will see a boost in confidence and consistency though. Quinn may actually jog out to the huddle and not do the duck walk like Anderson was great at doing.
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You are a goofball. Chud doesn't tell Edwards to drop 60-yard passes, or recievers to charge into coverage. He blew the Cinci game last season as a rookie. The runs late in this one were disturbing, except when you consider that the Ravens has their ears pinned back and they didn't trust DA. And that has RAC's fingerprints on it anyway.
Posted by joevegas on 11/03/08 at 7:34PM
TURN ON THE LIGHTS THE PARTY IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!!!!!!
THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by numb2losses on 11/03/08 at 7:36PM
Well, this is a step in the right direction. I don't know how much difference it will make. Giving Quinn a short week is a poor choice in my belief. It doesn't give him the preparation he deserves, but I think he'll do well. Anderson is a great backup QB, but he only had a 80 QB rating last year as a starter with an easy schedule. The team could have easily have gone 6-10 last year. It was just a matter of time.
On the Browns, there is a fundamental weakness in leadership on the team. It all goes back to Romeo. He can't even make a decent decision on the field, let alone actually lead his players! 3rd and 11 and you decline a 10 yd penalty so Baltimore can kick a FG? Wow, pure genius Romeo! I'm sure we would have heard more about that if Anderson didn't throw the INT for a touchdown and the final score was decided by 3 points. How about we bench Romeo?
Romeo couldn't get a fire started under their butts if he had a can of gasoline and a stack of matches! Those drops by Edwards? If he was under Parcells, Cowher, or any of the halfway decent coaches in the NFL, I can guarantee you it would never happen again.
Amen! Say it!
Mark my words: Romeo will never be a great coach. He doesn't have the instinct, intelligence, or knowledge needed for the job. He probably didn't even decide to pick Quinn for Thursday. The only decision he has made is for a 3-4 defense, and we've all seen how those defenses have turned out the last few years.
As far as Savage, he needs to stay out of politics and just manage what's left of the team. Winslow a distraction from the team??? How is that even possible? The only distraction was the chaos and confusion created by Savage, and the PR staff at the Cleveland Browns. After that poor decision by Savage, I wouldn't have him manage the ticket office, let alone the brownies.
Aw, crap! Savage has earned one freaking mistake (I mean besides extending RAC).
As far as Chud goes, I do like him. He's doing well as Offensive Coordinator. There's just no follow-through from the team. He does need to add some old school flea flickers, reverses, and some other exciting plays (play Harrison and Heiden more, have Cribbs as a WR, etc.). But alas, we need to concentrate on one problem at a time.
I apologize for my venting.
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Posted by snyderro on 11/03/08 at 7:38PM
One could argue that having two "Pro Bowl" receivers is actually a disadvantage to Anderson, since Edwards couldn't catch a cold and Winslow runs routes wherever he feels like it.
Huh? K2 blows routes? How many, Sherlock?
DA has not played as well hoped this year admittedly, but anyone that thinks they lost Sunday because of DA is a moron.
Shut up. He's right.
But of course Brady is the savior and we'll probably go 8-0 now the rest of the way with the second coming of Otto Graham and Joe Montana all rolled into on behind center. Cleveland fans can be such idiots.
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He's right about the idiot part. But actually, Quinn probably WILL do well here, except when he has to throw passes to Edwards. He's not a gunslinger. He's more like a bigger, stronger Brian sipe, with a stronger arm.
Posted by baycabbie on 11/03/08 at 7:39PM
I feel there are more problems within the organization than just the quater back position. Going from DA to Quinn is not going to solve the deep down problems. Changing one player on this team is not going to solve everything. I feel there are problems with coaches, management, players, and in the locker room. With our playoff hopes down the drain again this year, it is probably time to put Brady Quinn in and evaluate his play for the future. Many bashed DA, please don't do that to BQ as he is going to have his problems also. He is going to be sacked and he going to throw interceptions. Turning against our players is not constructive. We are all humiliated and embarrased with our teams performance. Fan's are angry and want everyone's head. There is to much hate in the hearts of many Brown's Fan's against our players, coaches, and management. We are the best fan's in the NFL. Everyone knows that. We must stay united as fan's and support the team until our last game of the season. There is no doubt there will be changes with the players, coaches, and maybe management over the off season. I hope all fan's are roaring and barking Thursday night to show the nation the kind of fan's we are.
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Kumbayah, my lord...Kumbaya....
Posted by NJskyDAWG on 11/03/08 at 7:40PM
FINALLLLLLY!!!!!!!They better give BQ the same eight games they gave to DA. Just seeing how Brady handled himself through this whole ordeal makes me expect that the huddle is going to be his place to shine. DA never gave me the sense that he had everything under control.What will be interesting is to see if he favors those he has been throwing to at practice up until now. I hope Heiden has a great game and the O-line comes to play.IN BRADY I TRUST!
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Posted by ottox on 11/03/08 at 7:43PM
I sure hope Tony had Sarc On when he mentioned "Pro Bowl weapons." If Brayin' E had caught a pass yesterday, the Browns would have won, and we wouldn't need this conversation. Of course, Wins Low must have the best collection of red hankies in Ohio.
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OK I've been bashing Edwards too, but the reason he went to the party last season was the fact that he DIDN"T drop passes. This guy has proven that he can be reliable as hell. What's wrong with him now, I can't figure out. K2 remains awesome. Lewis is a top back. The O-line is solid, despite the painful, painful loss of Tucker. Quinn should have time plus a running game plus a defense that can keep it close for him. All the ingredients, including Heiden as a security blanket, are here for a young QB to win.
Posted by DoughBoyRAC on 11/03/08 at 7:43PM
Go Brady, go!!
I wish you well!
Sadly they left you with a short week (at best) to try and sabotage you, but rely on your instincts and you will do fine!
This sounds like RAC got his feet cut out from under him. Can't wait to hear the details.
We have been blessed with a reason to watch! Stay tuned, DA Bots, and learn how the game should be played!
Go Browns!!
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Yeah right, short week on purpose so we lose. Quinn played their first team D in preseason and it's weak. Savage agrees with you about his smarts and instincts. Why do you think he drafted him? And yeah, I do believe Savage stepped in, at long last. Hope he told him to play Harrison more, too, but I doubt it.
Posted by bnhbutts on 11/03/08 at 7:44PM
Okay - here we go! It is about time! And the Browns definitely DID wait too long for this move! it is time to see what Brady can do!
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Posted by bukester on 11/03/08 at 7:46PM
how ironic the hometown hero goes up against one of our most hated teams the broncos. go get em kid.
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Posted by NCDawgFan on 11/03/08 at 7:46PM
Just make sure all of you Brady lovers are hear when he stinks up the joint. The excuses already have begun because of a "short week". Let's see how the savior works out. I'll hope for the best, but it will be just as bad if not worse.
At least you Notre Dame lovers will have a player instead of a team to root for. You all need to figure out if it's Go Browns or Go Brady.
One positive note. You have all proven to have the biggest man crush in Cleveland sports history. Not even LeBron get's the kind of worship you have given to this unproven pretty boy.
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That's overboard, although you're right about the man-crush. He's got the closet gays and women all locked up. They'd vote for him for President, too. but stink up the joint? Why would you say that? He was the most NFL-ready Qb in his draft two seasons ago. Jeez...he'll be unproven until he proves himself. You're saying he can't at least match "Bad Derrick"? I guess you must be one of those DA-bots I read about.
Posted by jdawg8 on 11/03/08 at 7:49PM
snyderro,Edwards TD drop was huge, but his TD catch should have been a INT except for the fact that he made a great play and ripped it out of the defenders hands. DA IS THE REASON WE LOST. Was Edwards drop huge? Yes, but that happened early in the 4th and DA has several chances to lead us to victory. To be a good QB in this league you have to make more the ONE good throw and expect to win, to have the ball on the 40 yrd line two times in a row and get zero yards out of that is unexceptable. He had a ton of time left in his "two minute drill" and he look rushed and uncomfortable and clueless. He threw a two yard pass right in the chess of a defender, Suggs didn't have to make a play on that ball it was thrown right to him. He had 3 minutes to get 30 yards or in the end zone and he couldn't do either.
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Edwards is EXPECTED to do what he did on that TD, and DA is expected to make that throw even with a guy all over him. He's too big and strong for DB's. He throws when he's told to throw, and hands off to Lewis when he's told to do that. He played well enough to win, and you're clueless.
Posted by Wooscot31 on 11/03/08 at 7:49PM
Interesting, at a little after 5:00 Romeo was interviewed on WMMS and was asked when Brady might get a chance and had no answer, certainly did not tip that it would be thursday, this move must have game from higher up.
It had to happen soon, how much confidence can Anderson have left after he threw that pick and everybody in the stadium got up and left chanting "Brady"
As for Chud, are you kidding me? That was some of the worst play calling i've seen in a long time. Run, Run, sets up 3rd and long if the D knows its comming, followed by an incomplete pass (or drop) set Baltimore up with excellent field position all day and our D got no rest, mix it up Chud, mix in a pass on first and second down, how about get Lewis in open space?
I actually look forward to watching the game this Thursday.
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Can't argue with that.
Posted by mls3007 on 11/03/08 at 7:49PM
Damn right.Give them hell BQ.
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Posted by EXBG on 11/03/08 at 7:53PM
I was for Derek to start the season but it became obvious by the 3rd game (all losses) that he had peaked in mid-2007 and was back at being a mediocre QB.
Why is it that Mr. Duh (RAC) is always the last guy to figure things out?
I don't see Brady being an immediate outstanding QB because I expect some 2-year rookie mistakes. However, I sure hope he steadily improves and turns into our franchise QB. He definitely has had a first class attitude while holding the clipboard for 15 months.
Let's win one for Bill Cower or Marty. I hear Schottenheimer wants to get back in coaching to win a Super Bowl. Unless Mr. Duh can win at least 8 - 9 games this year he likely needs to go back being a defensive coach with Big Bill up in New England.
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I have just invented the prevent-the-Marty defense.
Posted by fatpak419 on 11/03/08 at 7:55PM
Thank you, Mr. Grossi, for providing the most rational argument I have heard thusfar for the switch. The comparison between Anderson and Flacco's performances based on their respective experiences and characteristics are vital in understanding why, on paper, a less talented offense took us out of the playoff race this year.
I have been very conservative in my view for replacing DA with BQ, but I felt, after this Sunday, the time had come. The time is now to get BQ a decent number of starts and foster a future with a candidate capable of enjoying a flourishing career with this organization.
I do not think this change occured as result of fan pressure, as a clearly bitter Trent Dilfer inferred during his "editorial" on ESPN as an "analyst". This change occured because of eight starts that have exposed his inconsistency. Derek Anderson does not gel with this offense and, that being said, he might have a productive career somewhere else.
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You are a smart dude and I concur with you about Grossi's article. I hadn't noticed the Flacco-DA contrast until I'd read it, and it really was stark. And you are smart because you said "inconsistancy". DA is either a match for any QB or a pretty bad one. And some team WILL cough up some pretty good draft picks for him.
Posted by ClevelandFvr on 11/03/08 at 7:56PM
Good Luck Brady we are with you. step one complete. now bench braylon "drop pass" edwards for at least the half, to unswell his big head then maybe put him in the 3rd quarter, if he drops a pass then bench him, 3 tight ends Dinkins, Winslow, and Heiden. he cant drop any passes on the bench, also the season is not over, we are a little behind the eight ball but a loss tonight for the stoolers and 2 straight Browns wins and were back in it. GO BROWNS
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I AGREE. BENCH EDWARDS TIL HE GETS HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS ASS. And 3 TE's would work, too. Brady could find them open quick. Yeah...run over some people...cool...
Posted by screekdawg on 11/03/08 at 7:57PM
NCDawgFan,I thought we were all Browns fans here... DA just wasn't getting it done. Yes he looked better versus the Giants and Jags (We now see what kind of team they are) , but the #'s speak for themselves , DA is the lowest rated QB in the League with 200 more attempts , we need more than that. I share your dislike for the Irish, but I don't think we are on the same page as Browns fans..this was a good move, Go Browns!
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Posted by imneverwrong on 11/03/08 at 7:58PM
tony,
your allowed to disagree and not go with the flow on this one.
moves like this is why we can't build a good team. keep adding to the # of starting QBs we can have in Cleveland since we came back. Ever think that MAYBE it is not the QBs problem?
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It's also a RAC and Edwards problem, but this aint Butch Davis or Chris Palmer, and the offensive line was completely rebuilt and Lewis acquired prior to last season. That's where you start--don't talk about QB's without protection or past regimes.
Posted by genghisken on 11/03/08 at 7:58PM
It has very little to do with RAC recognizing DA's deficiencies and everything to do with an owner and his GM telling RAC that if he wanted a chance at remaining head coach he better stop being a shill for DA. For cryin' out loud, RAC was defending DA. Does that give you a clue as to what he really wanted to do? I just can't believe that their doing this on the short week.
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Are you one of the guys lobbying for Marty? He's a blockhead too. (Great coach...but a blockhead.) Now, Cowher: Edwards benched, Quinn in awhile ago.
Posted by Buckeyebobby on 11/03/08 at 7:59PM
Just watching Monday Night Countdown on ESPN and Boomer asked Trent Dilfer his opinion of benching Anderson.
Dilfer of course still has it out for Browns fans and Lerner. He stated Lerner makes knee jerk reactions, code word for gutless and Browns fans are a bunch of whiners and deserve what they get.
I agree that the Browns are a overrated team and it's not totally Anderson's fault. In reality the should bench Edwards for his terrible play too.
Playing Brady for one game isn't the answer and if he screws up, then what?
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Overrated? Let's see, this o-line, Lewis, Edwards, K2, a good defense (shut up that's the reality of it), and they gave away three or four games. They're underachieving, not overrated.
But Browns fans are indeed whiners.
And nobody expects Quinn to rock the world in his first start. Even some of the idolators on this site stipulate that he'll screw up some til he gets his feet wet. Quit posting. Stick to painting everything black.
Posted by NDQUINN10 on 11/03/08 at 8:01PM
soreback70, I could'nt believe it when i heard it.I am so f@#$ing pumped i wont sleep till Thursday night. Now you will see a leader.
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Posted by EXBG on 11/03/08 at 8:04PM
Wooscot31 that is a very interesting comment. It sounds like RAC (Mr. Duh) was over-ruled on this one. Remember when he was the last guy in Cleveland to figure out that Maurice Carthon was a terrible offensive coordinator.
Chud was outstanding last year, maybe Mr. Duh is helping him call the plays this year.
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Posted by eriedawg14 on 11/03/08 at 8:09PM
If Quinn has a terrible game, it may destroy some of his confidence. There is going to be a lot of hype seeing that we are the only team playing Thursday.
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Posted by soreback70 on 11/03/08 at 8:10PM
NDQ,
Man, I hear ya bro!
Like I've said before, I don't hate DA! only feel he's mentally unstable be their leader! don't get me wrong, DA has a very strong arm, but for some odd reason him and his recievers aren't on the same page.........It's a shame! he's such a big guy, and seems to try his a$$ off, what else can you do other than to start Quinn!?
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HUMAN life in Cleveland! This is great!
Posted by NDQUINN10 on 11/03/08 at 8:11PM
Hey NoClueDawgFan,You have no clue. And the short week wont be a problem. So Pumped!!!
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Posted by RickZ77SC on 11/03/08 at 8:13PM
DA wasn't the only issue Sunday, as many have mentioned. Edwards is way to inconsistent and I thought I was back in the late 70's watching Mike Pruitt up the middle twice and then an incomplete pass or a sack. I see nothing in the play calling that shows any promise, same old Browns.
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Posted by terje on 11/03/08 at 8:16PM
at least i have a reason to watch. instead of seeing the same old up and down crap with anderson we get to see what the flaming irish qb has in store.
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Posted by philflip31 on 11/03/08 at 8:19PM
I want MY REAL Browns back.....LOL, even though I hate the Rabirds! Just give us back what you stole from us and I would be happy! Oh well, at least we can see what Brady can do now....DA and the rest of the lousy Browns gave the season away...and it all starts with the coach!
I wish we would hire an experienced NFL coach. Since Bernie's last days, we have hired ASSistant coaches, who had never been an NFL head coach, starting with Bill Belichicklet....(who admits that he learned HOW to be a head coach by all the mistakes he made at Cleveland).
Then Money Hungry Modellllllhead can't manage his money, squanders it all, and has to "sell" OUR team to Baltimore, who couldn't even keep the Colts.
At least we have pride in OUR team and fought to keep our TEAM NAME and records, of which there are many! We didn't just give it all away like Baltimore did to the Indy Colts.....
So, at expansion, we hire another ASSistant coach, Chris Palmer. He lasted, what 2 years? Actually, he didn't last ONE game....40 something to Zip blowout to Pukesburg in our first game, he panics and sacrifices Tim Couch and his career.
So we go with Butchie "ME ME ME" Davis, head man from the U of ME...I mean, Miami, and he blows up our team and then QUITS on us with 5 to go....So we go with another Assistant as interim coach, Terry Robo. At least he had a little passion and common sense, but the Browns let him go at the end of the season and brought in RAC....the "genius" of Bill Chicklet's D-fence. Wow....what a brilliant move that has proven to be....
Long time ASSistant coaches are probably LONG TIME ASSistants for a reasons....here's hoping the Browns can figure that out and bring in a HEAD NFL coach!!!
Props to Flacco....not bad for a rook from Deleware. Hey Ratbirds, you can have DA back if you'll give us Flacco...or even Smith.
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Posted by NDQUINN10 on 11/03/08 at 8:23PM
What i see where he lacks leadership,when hes calling plays in the huddle we dont look in to there eyes as those hes ashamed. But hes not all at fault for the way this season is going,and can you imagine the presure he must be under from fans for Quinn.
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Posted by ghrmali on 11/03/08 at 8:25PM
be carefull in what you pray for!
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Posted by ghrmali on 11/03/08 at 8:25PM
be carefull in what you pray for!
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Posted by dcatl on 11/03/08 at 8:27PM
People, it doesn't matter if Brady lights it up or not right away on Thursday night...or if he's from Notre Dame, or a pretty boy, or any of that other crap.
The bottom line is we just got better at QB. Is anybody really worried that BQ is gonna do worse than one of the worst rated QBs in league...really? We just eliminated a BIG roadblock to this team being able to consistently win games. And no, I'm not talking about Romeo or Braylon.
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He's got a point. Quinn will catch guys in-stride (YAC) and move the chains. He was knocked for short passes all the time, but he moved the chains.
Posted by bob48burg on 11/03/08 at 8:32PM
Now he's done.
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Posted by johnnybrasc0 on 11/03/08 at 8:34PM
Stupid move.
Don't blame DA. Blame the horrible Offensive play calling. Blame Braylon Edwards for dropping so many crucial catches.
In this case.. the fans have too much power.
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Posted by dfwbacker on 11/03/08 at 8:35PM
Good luck Brady! What a wonderful chapter this has the makings to be.
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Posted by Bleedclev on 11/03/08 at 8:37PM
We have to see what we have in Quinn or at least what his potential can be. The move should have been made during the Bengal game or at least after Redskin loss. The next one to go is RAC who is not suitable for head coaching period. His inability to coach and discipline players shows itself most every week. I'm tired of seeing the Browns out coached and out played,outside of the Giants game. He was also asked not only about Quinn but about benching Edwards and he said he had no one else to put in place of Edwards. Edwards should be benched or for dropping 14 passes in 8 games! His work ethic and professionalism is horrible right now. Why not send him a message and get on his case, no guts no glory. RAC is like one of those parents that wants to be friends with their kids instead of holding them accountable and teaching them responsibility. He maybe a nice guy but he sure is no winner as a head coach.
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Yep.
Posted by airstang93 on 11/03/08 at 8:41PM
as much as i want to see Brady in there, i hope ur not all getting your hopes up for a great game.. Coming in on a shirt week, never started a game in his career and he has all this pressure on him.. I dont see the Browns pulling this one off as much as i hate to say it.. Good luck brady
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Quinn is surrounded by great talent and many felt he was ready to go coming out of college. Quit the Yoda act, he'll hack Denver a new one.
Posted by DoughBoyRAC on 11/03/08 at 8:43PM
I was right in February when Disaster Anderson got signed (DA bots be damned) and here is part two of my "I told you so" campaign.
Quinn will make this team a contender for the AFC North despite what DA and Crennel have done to sabotage it so far!
See you after week 17 to say, once again, "I told you dweebs so!"
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He might be right, but at the time DA was one of the hottest QB's in the NFL with astronomical upside. Young players have a strong tendancy to improve and become more consistant with experience. He might be right...but not because he has any brains.
Posted by TheCavalier on 11/03/08 at 8:44PM
HEY johnnybrascO!
How is this a stupid move??It's been stupid to wait week after week as the Browns watch the season spin around the toilet bowl.
Brady Quinn will get the job done
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Who said it was stupid?
Posted by browndawgbob on 11/03/08 at 8:48PM
johnny brasco - power to the people, little fella.
power to the people, right on!
we don't watch this stuff for our health, little man - we want it so deep down you could never begin to "get it".
So get on board or get on out!
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Posted by kosarsmyidol on 11/03/08 at 8:49PM
I don't have anything against Quinn so much as I can't stand his supporters. These tools have been chanting stuff like 'Quinn to Win' like some kind of mantra or political slogan for the last 1.5 seasons on the basis of scant evidence. He's thrown 8 regular season passes and 3 completions, and we still didn't win with him under center in the preseason.
When Quinn makes mistakes, it will be attributed to him being a young, inexperienced quarterback. Yet when Anderson makes mistakes, people say it's because he's unstable, an idiot or just doesn't have any leadership skills.
That being said, however much I feel like Anderson is being thrown under the bus due to the wide-ranging set of problems that we have, we have nothing to lose. The season is over as far as the playoffs are concerned, so might as well get the QB competition underway early...
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Jeez, even more intelligent life! He's right about most of these ass-clowns, too, including the guy a couple entries ago, and especially about how they see what they want to see. Everything was DA's fault. Nothing will be Quinn's. Good thing these guys aren't diagnosing patients or looking at battlefield intelligence, ya know?
Posted by wongum on 11/03/08 at 8:57PM
This football team is in complete chaos. How can you throw this kid to the wolves on a short week. How about if braylon catches half his drops. then DA doesn't look so bad, still bad but not so bad and you get a W yesterday if he catches that ball. Keep living the fans this team will be a loser for ever.
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I feel his pain, but Quinn was always here to take over. DA was resigned partly so that he could be traded after the season. And he's also right about how everything was blamed on DA, whether it was his fault or not.
Posted by ckinnison on 11/03/08 at 9:01PM
Hey that is great that Quinn is finally in, but answer this: Why aren't they wearing the magic helmets with the numbers drawn in magic marker on them? Those helmets worked on the NY football Giants.
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LET'S DO IT! WHY NOT?
Posted by hoosierz on 11/03/08 at 9:02PM
Derek Frye was never going to be a long term solution for the Browns.
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Posted by krivka on 11/03/08 at 9:09PM
Bigdawgy54, asking to replace Romeo with "The Chud" is not something a football fan would like to see. Have you been watching the games? The offensive play calling is lame. Maybe it is because DA, Edwards and K2 aren't as good as your think they are. Heiden is a better player than Winslow, but his number gets called, he makes great play and thats all, folks! How many times have the Browns allowed a fullback to run the ball? Chud is as bad as Romeo. Keep Tucker and fire the rest. Sit Edwards and K2 and let them get healthy for there next team. They are not going to be a art of the new team, and neither will Romeo and hopefully not the oh,so offensive coordinator. The Ravens have one of the most impressive coaching staffs, and THAT is what Cleveland Football club will have to face for the next ten years. What do the Browns have to counter that? Romeo? Chud? Yagottabekiddinme!!
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Except for rare occasions, Chud has made the most of these weapons. When a pass is under or overthrown, or a reciever drops it, that's not Chud's call. When you have a really good zone-blocking offensive line, a good fullback, and two tight ends, you run the ball half the time. You are blaming Chud for poor execution. Edwards alone--he catches half the balls he dropped and you think Chud is great. You see what you want to see. Try seeing what is there.
Posted by countryjoe63 on 11/03/08 at 9:11PM
Hopefully, Brady Quinn will be another Flacco, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, etc. I think it is a good move. DA has had his chance. He's got a strong off. line and still can't run an offense. As far as RAC, any predictions on where he will go after he's fired? Just like all former Clevelanders, Crennel will find his brilliance again after losing it when he signed on with Cleveland (ala Bellichek, B. Davis, C. Palmer, Carmon Policy, etc. - all got stupid once they put on the Orange and Brown.)
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