AndrA Davis is a still-relatively young, viable, long-time starting ILB with both 3-4 and 4-3 experience. His contract locks him up for awhile and is pretty cap-friendly.
Buffalo, why don't you get rid of that disappointing Ashton Yaboty guy and get you a nice deal on a used ILB?
As for the Browns,
1: Beau Bell isn't here to back up. He's taken to the run-stuffing part of the defensive scheme like a duck to water. He does need work on the pass-defense part, but has the requisite tools. Understand that, when Jackson plays, he will be the first ILB to drop back. Also, for an ILB the most important part of this is recognition and quick retreat. The second most important part is to spot which reciever to jump on. It can be difficult, as offenders deliberately flood that zone and try to make messes there, but it's not the rocket science some crack it up to be.
2: Shante Orr can play ILB, and it could even be his best postion. He's a leverage player, and more quick than fast. Given his experience, he could well be a swing-player and situational reliever inside.
3: Williams may also be a swing-player and make frequent appearances inside, where he did a great job last season. In fact, given the fact that Peek is for once healthy, Williams could push to start inside. We're up to four players here who could rotate inside, sans Davis--all of whome could be better than Davis.
4: Yaboty is only entering his third year, and has physical talent near Wright's. His biggest drawback is weakness in run defense, but he could well improve in this area, and all others. The Browns do not need a starting cornerback, and may not even need a third. Hell, with AJ Davis looking surprisingly good, another UFA loaded with talent, and the old vet recently signed, they may not even need a fifth.
Yaboty would be a depth player here this season, but is also a developmental potential future starter with great upside. Like Holly, he IS a vedderrun. A third year player who has played a lot is a veteran DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Other brilliant yet humble insights:
Travis Wilson shows signs of life with crisper patterns, but still drops the damn ball. He's made great progress on the tactical part of the game, and drops fewer than he did before, but he's had two years. If he doesn't start catching everything thrown at him, he's done here.
...but like Yaboty, he could fetch something in a trade. Coaches always think they can "fix" players with talent. That being said, he HAS improved significantly, and is exhibiting a good attitude, so don't write him off yet.
Jerome Harrison has been practicing hard, and doing great things on the practice field. Those of you who were crying about the "need" for another running back were planning to cut Harrison, or even Jason Wright. I'll avoid telling you how idiotic this is...oops!
Wright has done nothing but produce while filling in for Lewis and running the identical game-plan. A lot of teams would kill to have him, and a few would even use him in a 2-back. He's still young, and while he's about as good as he'll ever be, he's a solid journeyman and a salary-cap bargain--any GM who released him without a truly better replacement would be the laughing stock of the league.
Harrison has the highest YPC on the team and is proabably the best reciever among the RB's. On sunday, under the lights, he kicks butt every time he's used. That's irrefutable. Even Crennel won't dispute it, and he's the guy who wouldn't let him play.
He IS on the spot because of his practice habits (which infers attitude), and Savage HAS brought in talented and productive running backs to challenge him. He COULD still be released or traded, but not unless one of the new guys actually beats him out.
HE KNOWS that he has to work hard to remain on the team, and does have the physical talent to out-perform any other running back we have, including Jamal Lewis. None of them have anything like his elusiveness or speed. None of them are home-run hitters like he is.
Those of you who diagnosed a huge need for Jamal Lewis's eventual replacement were writing off the most gifted running back on the roster, based exclusively on his dog-house status.
Anyway, every draft has a lot of good running backs. Lewis played his age last season and has returned in great shape again (along with Harrison, who went with him to train with the same people.)
Harrison may well have turned the corner.
He's different than Lewis, despite the fact that he's pumped up to over 215 lbs. He'll never run people over like Lewis does, but can often avoid the hits which Lewis can't--even in the heavy traffic between the tackles. He will never take the same level of punishment that a big back does because of his running style. He proved his endurance in college with his staggering production.
Hidden here is also the fact that he's SHORT and compact. He can't break tackles like Lewis can, but then nobody in the NFL can. But his stature is a great asset in leverage, and he is much bigger and stronger than he was when drafted, so he's not Gregg Pruitt or Eric Metcalf either.
Jerome Harrison, if he continues to work hard and make good decisions in practice, IS Jamal Lewis's heir apparant.
As he and Wright have both demonstrated, a big tackle-breaker is not manditory for this offense.
Antwan Peek is showing what he can do when healthy. It appears now that he hasn't lost much. If he remains healthy, Wimbley will have his bookend for the coming season, and there are now no less than THREE raw young contenders to challenge him in 2009.
McMillan could also show up more than he has in the past. After all, rushing the passer was never an issue with him, whether standing up or with his hand in the dirt. The issue with McMillan is, will he ever become proficient in coverage and conventional run-stopping.
Ok. YOU STAND CORRECTED.
Monday, May 26, 2008
Sunday, May 18, 2008
Memorex Morons (MM's)
Posted by poppadawg on 05/16/08 at 7:36AM
Hey Orangeaide, don't jump in the deep end yet. We still have Derek( the pick ) Anderson playing QB,and Romeo( the stubborn old fool) Crennel as head coach,who won't sit said QB when he comes crashing back to earth until after we're out of the playoff picture. Which means your boy, Phil Savage, will find his butt on the hot seat by years end because of the 24 million dollar mistake he made when he resign that turnover machine, Anderson.
You simply can't get much dumber than this Chicken Little guy. Anderson was a first-time starter in a brand new offense. Several times, he had to come from behind. His interceptions and poor performances came in a couple of games toward the end of the season. Young players IMPROVE more often than they simply stagnate, and it's pretty ignorant to expect an identical player a season removed. Hence the term Memorex Moron.
Yeah, he's right about Romeo not allowing Quinn to get any more reps than absolutely neccessary last season, but you can't be going over the edge calling him a fool. Dumb people think in absolutes.
Savage is a pro who expects Anderson to polish up his short game and become a more refined product. That's just common sense.
Savage also thinks long-term. Quinn is still very likely the future here, even if Anderson kicks butt. 24 million will be a bargain salary for a Pro Bowl quarterback, and shake loose a boatload of draft picks in a trade. Such a move could well load this team up for five years or longer, from top to bottom.
And why would Savage be on the hot seat, even if Anderson stumbles? Does this clown think Randy Lerner is as dumb as he is? Savage secured Quinn, too, and rebuilt this entire team. He is responsible for all this talent. Fire a guy because QB #2 outplays QB #1? Why not for a high pick who gets injured? Why not for a seventh rounder who gets cut?
But anyone with any sense, let alone Gil Brandt, Pat Kirwin, and a bunch of other pros, doesn't expect Anderson to stagnate or regress. I mean, you're mentally ill if you do!
Change your prescription, buddy.
Hey Orangeaide, don't jump in the deep end yet. We still have Derek( the pick ) Anderson playing QB,and Romeo( the stubborn old fool) Crennel as head coach,who won't sit said QB when he comes crashing back to earth until after we're out of the playoff picture. Which means your boy, Phil Savage, will find his butt on the hot seat by years end because of the 24 million dollar mistake he made when he resign that turnover machine, Anderson.
You simply can't get much dumber than this Chicken Little guy. Anderson was a first-time starter in a brand new offense. Several times, he had to come from behind. His interceptions and poor performances came in a couple of games toward the end of the season. Young players IMPROVE more often than they simply stagnate, and it's pretty ignorant to expect an identical player a season removed. Hence the term Memorex Moron.
Yeah, he's right about Romeo not allowing Quinn to get any more reps than absolutely neccessary last season, but you can't be going over the edge calling him a fool. Dumb people think in absolutes.
Savage is a pro who expects Anderson to polish up his short game and become a more refined product. That's just common sense.
Savage also thinks long-term. Quinn is still very likely the future here, even if Anderson kicks butt. 24 million will be a bargain salary for a Pro Bowl quarterback, and shake loose a boatload of draft picks in a trade. Such a move could well load this team up for five years or longer, from top to bottom.
And why would Savage be on the hot seat, even if Anderson stumbles? Does this clown think Randy Lerner is as dumb as he is? Savage secured Quinn, too, and rebuilt this entire team. He is responsible for all this talent. Fire a guy because QB #2 outplays QB #1? Why not for a high pick who gets injured? Why not for a seventh rounder who gets cut?
But anyone with any sense, let alone Gil Brandt, Pat Kirwin, and a bunch of other pros, doesn't expect Anderson to stagnate or regress. I mean, you're mentally ill if you do!
Change your prescription, buddy.
Sunday, May 11, 2008
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Hey, Tony: I looked at the Browns roster, and I noticed Ted Washington was gone. Did he retire, or get cut? -- Marvin Ford, Cleveland
Hey, Marvin: Washington's contract expired. He is not on the team.
Hey, Marvin: The top four are seasoned vets, and Gramps was taking up a roster spot. You work for AARP, right? Think McGinest will have a beakout year in '10?
Tracy Boulian/The Plain DealerThe condition of Kellen Winslow's knees and the arrival of a potential replacement have Browns fans wondering about the Pro Bowler's future with the team.
It's true. It's even possible they'd trade him. His physical condition writes him out of this team's long-term future, and he's very valuable...NOW.
Hey, Tony: I heard during the draft that the Browns are looking at Rucker (TE) as a future replacement for Kellen Winslow. How worried are the Browns about Winslow's knees. I mean we all know he will never be what he could have been, but how bad are they? And with Edwards and Winslow wanting new deals, how likely are the Browns to do new deals and if they do will they add a year or two to the end to keep them here longer? -- Gary, Philadelphia
Hey, Gary: Winslow's right knee has undergone at least four surgeries. His career probably will be shortened by the fact the knee has never been healthy since his motorcycle accident in 2005. Winslow practices in pain and plays with pain. New deals for Edwards and Winslow apparently are not on the Browns' front burner. I'm thinking Edwards will get one before Winslow.
Hey, Tony: Since the Browns failed to address their CB issue through the draft, is there any chance the Browns go after Eagles CB Lito Sheppard? He would cost the Browns, but is Eric Wright or any of the Browns corners really ready to cover the likes of Terrell Owens, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison, and Andre Johnson (just to name a few) this season? -- Mike Grimes, Berea
Hey, Mike: The Browns say they are satisfied with their top three cornerbacks and are looking for depth beyond them. GM Phil Savage said the team isn't interested in Sheppard.
Hey Mike: No, Wright will need at least 3 more years of playing full-time before they can trust him to cover anybody. Holly is a raw talent with only two seasons' experience and 10+ interceptions. McDonald should be ready to be a nickel back around 2011. Behind the scenes, the Browns are seeing about releasing Braylon Edwards so they can afford Shepherd, and trying to decide how many first and second round picks they need to give up.
Hey, Tony: With the Browns trading a third-round pick next year for TE Martin Rucker, does this mean Steve Heiden's back injury is career-threatening? -- Angelo Costanzo, Cleveland
Hey, Angelo: No, they are more worried about Kellen Winslow's career longevity and his desire for a new contract with three years left on the current one. Heiden is supposed to be fine for the start of training camp.
Hey Angelo: Hubbard is an H/wing TE like Winslow. Heiden is a much different player, with strong in-line blocking skills and limitted recieving range. Hubbard may be or become a good in-line blocker, but for now he fills a much different role in the offense. Also, Heiden's AGE is a factor.
Hey, Tony: Do you know anything about Todd DeLamielleure's size and speed? I was a real fan of his dad. I saw him play in many games. If he is anything like his father, I hope he gets a good shot. -- Ed Kaser, Sylvania, Ohio
Hey, Ed: DeLamielleure was not offered a contract to training camp after his tryout.
Hey, Tony: Love your work. Question I have is why do you constantly post answers to repeat questions? You have answered time and again the same old questions about trading DA or Quinn, defended Phil Dawson countless times, at least once a week you are refusing to answer a question regarding uniforms, and last week I read a question where some answered their own question about Shaun Rogers by commenting on what their "friend" on the team said. Please save yourself time, and make all the smart Browns fans happy by posting only intelligent questions about the team. -- Jared Smith, Layton, Utah
Hey, Jared: I occasionally answer repeat questions -- again and again -- on the belief that not everybody reads the entire column every week. I hereby pledge to reduce, but not eliminate, the amount of repeat questions.
Hey Jared: Tony also knows that memory is linked to intelligence, and.......nevermind.
Hey, Tony: Do the Browns send scouts to other rookie minicamps in order to scout and possibly pick up someone who is cut that they may want? -- Brandon Sarratt, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Brandon: No. It is against the rules for scouts to attend other teams' private minicamps. Now, training camps -- which are open to the public -- is another story.
Hey, Tony: I was just curious if the Browns had a rule about players not wearing dark visors during games? I have never seen a player wear one during the games but I have seen them during practice. Also, what are your thoughts with seventh round pick Alex Hall? -- Michael Moeschl, Medina, Ohio
Hey, Michael: There is no team rule against wearing dark visors. I can remember a few players wearing them, but can't recall their names off-hand. On Hall, he is a developmental pass rusher who probably will stick as a practice player.
Hey Micheal: Hall might also be active, as he's a strong candidate for special teams. Coming from a small college, he'll need a season and off-season to adapt to an OLB position and get stronger. If he is determined and works hard, he has the talent to contend for a starting OLB slot as early as next season.
Tony implicitly discounts him as an every-down linebacker, but he has the change-of-direction, balance, speed and quickness required for that particular position in this particular defense.
Hey, Tony: I read your stuff all the time. I have been hearing some rumors about Lito Sheppard from the Eagles coming to Cleveland. Is it possible at all? -- Todd Rhinehart, Zanesville, Ohio
Hey, Todd: After earlier stating I would reduce the amount of repeat questions, I will answer yours because of your compliment. The Browns have told me they have no interest in trading for Sheppard.
Hey Todd: They want to hold onto at least one first-day pick in '08. They also need to pay their other players.
Hey, Tony: I recently went back and scanned through the draft issue of a national sports magazine (Sporting News/War Room Scouts), and noted that Beau Bell was their No. 1-rated ILB, Martin Rucker was their No. 3-rated TE, and Athyba Rubin was their No. 3-rated DT. They actually had Bell going in the second round and Rubin going 26th overall! Would you consider this to just be very poor analysis, or do you think Phil Savage has done the unthinkable -- drafted "diamonds in the rough" based on their on-field performance while other GMs overlook them and salivate over workout numbers? -- Matt Webb, Barberton, Ohio
Hey, Matt: If you consider your source as the ultimate oracle on the college draft, then you would have to praise the Browns. I have given them kudos for their picks. But let's wait a while to see how they pan out before inducting the 2008 draft class into the Hall of Fame.
Hey Matt: That's a good hypothesis! those draft-guides are often full of crap, but Belle's clock-times were while recovering from injuries, and on-film you can see game-speed. Like if a guy can run down a wide reciever from behind in a straight line? That makes the clock-time irrelevant, doesn't it? If a guy gets a bunch of passes defensed and interceptions, how can anybody in their right minds say he can't cover?
Let Tony be a wet blanket if he wants! It's ok to extrapolate.
Hey, Tony: I saw a photo of Beau Bell in a 58 jersey and on the roster D'Qwell Jackson was listed as 52. Why did this number change take place? -- Ricardo Guice, Clearwater, Fla.
Hey, Ricardo: Jackson requested a change to No. 52 and Bell was then assigned No. 58.
Hey, Tony: Did you know that Cleveland native J.J. Bennett, who will graduate from Colgate University this spring, was invited to the Browns' rookie minicamp this week? I'd love to see what the coaches had to say about his workouts. -- Nick Verbitsky, Ridgefield, Conn.
Hey, Nick: Bennett was among the players invited to try out. He was not offered a contract to return.
Hey, Tony: How is it that Savage is deathly concerned with D.A. going down with an injury, but he doesn't seem that all concerned if Jamal Lewis goes down? Seriously, what have the backup running backs ever done to earn such confidence? -- Matt Antunez, Youngstown, Ohio
Hey, Matt: Valid point. Except that when a starting quarterback goes down, it has an added psychological effect on the team. Also, if Anderson went down, it would reduce the QB roster to Brady Quinn and Ken Dorsey, and that would be a concern. Of course, you can point to other positions -- such as left tackle -- and say the same thing.
Hey Matt: INvalid point. Harrison averages over 5 YPC and Wright has kept the chains moving and made big plays over extended periods. Ignore the ignorant and pay attention to performance. We have good depth at RB, and Harrison is a potential star--if he'd just show more discipline in practice. (His game-day performance was not at issue last season, including his blocking.)
Hey, Tony: Don't you think Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams would have benefited from having a mentor and a leader like Ted Washington to help them this season? I can't understand why Ted isn't on this team anymore. -- Terry Toeisher, Rocky River, Ohio
Hey, Terry: Washington simply can't perform anymore. If you want to make him a coach, fine.
Hey Terry: I heard we might be able to get Carl Hairston to come back!
Hey, Tony: I see lots of comments from people about upgrading the cornerback position, but I'm not sure it is that bad. In my opinion, Eric Wright was one of their best defenders last year (hands down the best tackler on the team), and in the past two years both Daven Holly and Brandon McDonald have shown flashes. If you assume the D-Line shows some improvement, they won't have to cover as long on each passing down. How comfortable would you be with the current group? -- Sean Doherty, Guelph, Ontario
Hey, Sean: If you could guarantee me they would stay healthy and play 16 games, I'd be comfortable with that.
Hey Sean: AMEN!
Hey, Tony: Good point. But he's referring to MM's who proclaim the need for a vedderunn STARDER, calling Holly "inexperienced", implying that a cornerback needs several YEARS to develop, and declaring Terrell and other UFA's DOA after an extremely deep CB draft.
Hey, Tony: Do you think the Browns have any interest in former Raider and Colt Dominic Rhodes as insurance for Jamal Lewis? -- Joe Boesch, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Joe: For the umpteenth time, the Browns are comfortable with Jason Wright and Jerome Harrison as their backup running backs.
Hey Joe: Stop it you're killing us.
Hey, Tony: What do you think are the chances the Browns might deploy Gary Baxter as the third safety in a "Big Nickel" package? With his experience at CB and his size and strength as a safety, he might fit the bill. Romeo apparently used this configuration at New England. -- Chuck, Mayfield Heights, Ohio
Hey, Chuck: Baxter has to prove he can run laterally. That wasn't the case when he made it back to the field last year.
Hey Chuck: Thanks for being you. Yeah, I'm sure they have that in mind, but Tony's right about the lateral movement thing. However, Tony might be forgetting that safety and cornerback are different positions--many safeties ARE safeties because they don't have flexible hips and can be shaken by quick recievers. Also, Tony is determined to avoid using his imagination: Baxter's injuries take two years to come back from. Here it is. Don't write the man off.
Hey, Tony: Things with Kellen Winslow are looking, well, grim. I now look at the Donte Stallworth signing as, perhaps, the most intriguing move of any team this off-season. (Not counting retiring QBs) So my question becomes this, are we looking at a season of an aging Jurevicius in multiple WR formations or should we expect a one-legged Winslow to continue to be a focal point of the 2008 offense? -- Joe Cepec, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Joe: Perhaps you hit on the reason Martin Rucker became so attractive to the Browns in the draft.
Hey, Joe: Your head is more than a hat-rack, ok? Winslow kicked ass and went to the Pro Bowl last season, so what's this "another season of" crap? It does look grim, but Hubbard is OBVIOUSLY here to ease into his role and insure continuity. Chud's offense more often than not deploys two TE's or two backs even in some longer down and distance situations by design. Plus--behind Edwards/Stallworth/Jurevicious who is the fourth reciever? Or third when someone is injured? Do you think Chud designs a playboook in which a good part of it gets deleted after one injury? jeez!!!
Hey, Tony: Being a huge Penn State fan, I was interested to see that Austin Scott was signed from the tryout period. I know it's early, but what do you think his chances are in making the final roster? -- Joe Zaidinski, Bethpage, N.Y.
Hey, Joe: I answer all questions about undrafted rookie free agents about the same. Chances of making the roster: Slim and none. Not impossible. Not probable. Charles Ali made it last year, so I would expect one undrafted free agent to rise to the top. Will it be Scott? I have no educated guess on that.
Hey, Tony: Now that the Browns have developed a stronger roster, including 6 Pro Bowlers, who do you think will be the first player the Browns may have to use the franchise tag on to keep from losing him, and when will it happen? -- Bill Johnson, Akron, Ohio
Hey, Bill: To use the franchise tag, the Browns would have to absolutely want to keep a star player whose contract is up and who may be asking for the moon and the stars. Safety Sean Jones comes to mind, but there is no inkling of a contract impasse with him. I wouldn't worry about this. By the time a franchise player-type issue faces the Browns, the whole concept of franchise player might be wiped away by a new collective bargaining agreement or work stoppage.
Hey, Tony: Wanted to know your opinion on the recently released Adam Archuleta. Any possible interest in him from the Browns? I think he could, at the very least, provide some much needed experience and depth in the defensive backfield. Thoughts? -- Ron Biswas, New Haven, Conn.
Hey, Ron: He's a decent player, strictly a safety who likes to play close to the line of scrimmage, who could provide what you say. If he's healthy, I'd consider him. He's only 30. I'm not sure how he'd fit in Romeo Crennel's defense, but anybody who can tackle should find a role.
Hey, Tony: Not so long ago, cleveland.com enabled a comments feature for so-called fans to display the ignorant nonsense that immediately enters their brain after reading an off-season article about their local professional football team. I'm not sure that anybody could hate this feature more than I do. Message boards are for people who can't get anybody to read their blog. Your thoughts? -- Scott Trepal, Cleveland
Hey, Scott: Welcome to the Internet world in the 21st century. We're all adapting to it.
Hey, Scott: Sorry about the lynching that happened 2 minutes after this was published. Get well soon.
Hey, Tony: Last off-season, a big deal was made about Jamal Lewis' physically demanding training program that he and Jerome Harrison attended and seemed to benefit from. I was curious if you are aware if they are participating in the same program this off-season? -- Jon Young, Hudson, Ohio
Hey, Jon: Sorry, I'm not aware of it. But I promise to ask them at the June minicamp.
Hey Jon: Oh COOL! I hope that's right, man! Edwards trained with Jerry Rice this off-season too. With Harrison, Lewis's personal example and influence could be invaluable, since the sole issue Romeo cites with him is poor practices. And obviously, that program works! The whole football world thought Lewis was a shadow of his former self, or even washed-up. "You only have so many carries in your body, regardless of chronological age".
If what you heard is true, it's a very very good sign that Harrison has his attitude straight, and could earn his way onto the field more this season. The sky is the limit for this TWO HUNDRED SEVENTEEN POUND running back.
Hey, Tony: I like to keep up with the Browns roster. I would like to see a column added that would show when a player's contract expires. That being said, what are Steve Cargile's contract terms? -- Dale Galbraith, Barberton, Ohio
Hey, Dale: I'd love to know, too, but players' contract information formerly accessible to the media has been suspended. The NFL players union is revamping its Web site and the contract information has not yet been added.
Hey, Tony: Why has no one, whether coach or teammate, been able to light a fire under WR Travis Wilson for the past three seasons? If WR Paul Hubbard works out, where does that leave Wilson in the mix? -- Jim Albertson, Norman, Okla.
Hey, Jim: I wouldn't get overly excited about Hubbard just yet. Let's see him catch a ball in the middle of the field when players are going full speed. That said, Wilson will have to earn his roster spot this year, unlike the previous two.
Hey, Jim: That's right. Savage isn't ashamed to release his own draft picks, and the third season is make-or-break. Hubbard is here specificly to challenge him, and one of the two will come out on top, period. It does NOT mean that Wilson will neccessarily be cut if he loses, however--as some have said. But he WILL absolutely be cut if he doesn't run correct patterns and catch the damn ball.
Hey, Tony: I understand all the Browns draft picks except Paul Hubbard. Why move up to get a guy with questionable hands who isn't going to return kicks because you already have a Pro Bowler back there? -- Chris Bien, Ashtabula, Ohio
Hey, Chris: All I can say is the Browns like Hubbard's size. There's a coaching theory that you can teach a player to catch (or throw or tackle, etc.) but you can't teach size. So big players get a closer look than others.
Hey Chris: It wasn't the first round DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Hubbard is, like MOST low-round picks, a developmental player who projects to being a contributor at least one season down the road. Hubbard is big and fast, and has demonstrated great hands. He dropped because he also dropped some passes, and because he was injured.
WHEN A RECIEVER MAKES GREAT CATCHES MOST OF THE TIME BUT DROPS SOME EASY ONES IT MEANS IT'S MENTAL. IT MEANS THAT IF THE PLAYER CONCENTRATES HE CAN CATCH EVERYTHING THROWN TO HIM. IT MEANS JERRY RICE CAN DROP EVERY SEVENTH PASS AS A ROOKE AND THEN GO TO THE HALL OF FAME DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Hey, Tony: Do you think or have you heard if the Browns are still interested in Takeo Spikes or Al Wilson and if they are, do you think either would be a good pick-up? -- William Green, Hubbard, Ohio
Hey, William: To my knowledge, Browns never had an interest in Spikes. They gave Wilson a physical but made no offer. They may have brought him in for the NFL minimum salary but Wilson, a five-time Pro Bowler, thinks he's worth more.
Hey William: Repeat after me: "The Cleveland Browns are strong and deep at ILB". STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
-- Tony
Hey, Marvin: Washington's contract expired. He is not on the team.
Hey, Marvin: The top four are seasoned vets, and Gramps was taking up a roster spot. You work for AARP, right? Think McGinest will have a beakout year in '10?
Tracy Boulian/The Plain DealerThe condition of Kellen Winslow's knees and the arrival of a potential replacement have Browns fans wondering about the Pro Bowler's future with the team.
It's true. It's even possible they'd trade him. His physical condition writes him out of this team's long-term future, and he's very valuable...NOW.
Hey, Tony: I heard during the draft that the Browns are looking at Rucker (TE) as a future replacement for Kellen Winslow. How worried are the Browns about Winslow's knees. I mean we all know he will never be what he could have been, but how bad are they? And with Edwards and Winslow wanting new deals, how likely are the Browns to do new deals and if they do will they add a year or two to the end to keep them here longer? -- Gary, Philadelphia
Hey, Gary: Winslow's right knee has undergone at least four surgeries. His career probably will be shortened by the fact the knee has never been healthy since his motorcycle accident in 2005. Winslow practices in pain and plays with pain. New deals for Edwards and Winslow apparently are not on the Browns' front burner. I'm thinking Edwards will get one before Winslow.
Hey, Tony: Since the Browns failed to address their CB issue through the draft, is there any chance the Browns go after Eagles CB Lito Sheppard? He would cost the Browns, but is Eric Wright or any of the Browns corners really ready to cover the likes of Terrell Owens, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison, and Andre Johnson (just to name a few) this season? -- Mike Grimes, Berea
Hey, Mike: The Browns say they are satisfied with their top three cornerbacks and are looking for depth beyond them. GM Phil Savage said the team isn't interested in Sheppard.
Hey Mike: No, Wright will need at least 3 more years of playing full-time before they can trust him to cover anybody. Holly is a raw talent with only two seasons' experience and 10+ interceptions. McDonald should be ready to be a nickel back around 2011. Behind the scenes, the Browns are seeing about releasing Braylon Edwards so they can afford Shepherd, and trying to decide how many first and second round picks they need to give up.
Hey, Tony: With the Browns trading a third-round pick next year for TE Martin Rucker, does this mean Steve Heiden's back injury is career-threatening? -- Angelo Costanzo, Cleveland
Hey, Angelo: No, they are more worried about Kellen Winslow's career longevity and his desire for a new contract with three years left on the current one. Heiden is supposed to be fine for the start of training camp.
Hey Angelo: Hubbard is an H/wing TE like Winslow. Heiden is a much different player, with strong in-line blocking skills and limitted recieving range. Hubbard may be or become a good in-line blocker, but for now he fills a much different role in the offense. Also, Heiden's AGE is a factor.
Hey, Tony: Do you know anything about Todd DeLamielleure's size and speed? I was a real fan of his dad. I saw him play in many games. If he is anything like his father, I hope he gets a good shot. -- Ed Kaser, Sylvania, Ohio
Hey, Ed: DeLamielleure was not offered a contract to training camp after his tryout.
Hey, Tony: Love your work. Question I have is why do you constantly post answers to repeat questions? You have answered time and again the same old questions about trading DA or Quinn, defended Phil Dawson countless times, at least once a week you are refusing to answer a question regarding uniforms, and last week I read a question where some answered their own question about Shaun Rogers by commenting on what their "friend" on the team said. Please save yourself time, and make all the smart Browns fans happy by posting only intelligent questions about the team. -- Jared Smith, Layton, Utah
Hey, Jared: I occasionally answer repeat questions -- again and again -- on the belief that not everybody reads the entire column every week. I hereby pledge to reduce, but not eliminate, the amount of repeat questions.
Hey Jared: Tony also knows that memory is linked to intelligence, and.......nevermind.
Hey, Tony: Do the Browns send scouts to other rookie minicamps in order to scout and possibly pick up someone who is cut that they may want? -- Brandon Sarratt, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Brandon: No. It is against the rules for scouts to attend other teams' private minicamps. Now, training camps -- which are open to the public -- is another story.
Hey, Tony: I was just curious if the Browns had a rule about players not wearing dark visors during games? I have never seen a player wear one during the games but I have seen them during practice. Also, what are your thoughts with seventh round pick Alex Hall? -- Michael Moeschl, Medina, Ohio
Hey, Michael: There is no team rule against wearing dark visors. I can remember a few players wearing them, but can't recall their names off-hand. On Hall, he is a developmental pass rusher who probably will stick as a practice player.
Hey Micheal: Hall might also be active, as he's a strong candidate for special teams. Coming from a small college, he'll need a season and off-season to adapt to an OLB position and get stronger. If he is determined and works hard, he has the talent to contend for a starting OLB slot as early as next season.
Tony implicitly discounts him as an every-down linebacker, but he has the change-of-direction, balance, speed and quickness required for that particular position in this particular defense.
Hey, Tony: I read your stuff all the time. I have been hearing some rumors about Lito Sheppard from the Eagles coming to Cleveland. Is it possible at all? -- Todd Rhinehart, Zanesville, Ohio
Hey, Todd: After earlier stating I would reduce the amount of repeat questions, I will answer yours because of your compliment. The Browns have told me they have no interest in trading for Sheppard.
Hey Todd: They want to hold onto at least one first-day pick in '08. They also need to pay their other players.
Hey, Tony: I recently went back and scanned through the draft issue of a national sports magazine (Sporting News/War Room Scouts), and noted that Beau Bell was their No. 1-rated ILB, Martin Rucker was their No. 3-rated TE, and Athyba Rubin was their No. 3-rated DT. They actually had Bell going in the second round and Rubin going 26th overall! Would you consider this to just be very poor analysis, or do you think Phil Savage has done the unthinkable -- drafted "diamonds in the rough" based on their on-field performance while other GMs overlook them and salivate over workout numbers? -- Matt Webb, Barberton, Ohio
Hey, Matt: If you consider your source as the ultimate oracle on the college draft, then you would have to praise the Browns. I have given them kudos for their picks. But let's wait a while to see how they pan out before inducting the 2008 draft class into the Hall of Fame.
Hey Matt: That's a good hypothesis! those draft-guides are often full of crap, but Belle's clock-times were while recovering from injuries, and on-film you can see game-speed. Like if a guy can run down a wide reciever from behind in a straight line? That makes the clock-time irrelevant, doesn't it? If a guy gets a bunch of passes defensed and interceptions, how can anybody in their right minds say he can't cover?
Let Tony be a wet blanket if he wants! It's ok to extrapolate.
Hey, Tony: I saw a photo of Beau Bell in a 58 jersey and on the roster D'Qwell Jackson was listed as 52. Why did this number change take place? -- Ricardo Guice, Clearwater, Fla.
Hey, Ricardo: Jackson requested a change to No. 52 and Bell was then assigned No. 58.
Hey, Tony: Did you know that Cleveland native J.J. Bennett, who will graduate from Colgate University this spring, was invited to the Browns' rookie minicamp this week? I'd love to see what the coaches had to say about his workouts. -- Nick Verbitsky, Ridgefield, Conn.
Hey, Nick: Bennett was among the players invited to try out. He was not offered a contract to return.
Hey, Tony: How is it that Savage is deathly concerned with D.A. going down with an injury, but he doesn't seem that all concerned if Jamal Lewis goes down? Seriously, what have the backup running backs ever done to earn such confidence? -- Matt Antunez, Youngstown, Ohio
Hey, Matt: Valid point. Except that when a starting quarterback goes down, it has an added psychological effect on the team. Also, if Anderson went down, it would reduce the QB roster to Brady Quinn and Ken Dorsey, and that would be a concern. Of course, you can point to other positions -- such as left tackle -- and say the same thing.
Hey Matt: INvalid point. Harrison averages over 5 YPC and Wright has kept the chains moving and made big plays over extended periods. Ignore the ignorant and pay attention to performance. We have good depth at RB, and Harrison is a potential star--if he'd just show more discipline in practice. (His game-day performance was not at issue last season, including his blocking.)
Hey, Tony: Don't you think Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams would have benefited from having a mentor and a leader like Ted Washington to help them this season? I can't understand why Ted isn't on this team anymore. -- Terry Toeisher, Rocky River, Ohio
Hey, Terry: Washington simply can't perform anymore. If you want to make him a coach, fine.
Hey Terry: I heard we might be able to get Carl Hairston to come back!
Hey, Tony: I see lots of comments from people about upgrading the cornerback position, but I'm not sure it is that bad. In my opinion, Eric Wright was one of their best defenders last year (hands down the best tackler on the team), and in the past two years both Daven Holly and Brandon McDonald have shown flashes. If you assume the D-Line shows some improvement, they won't have to cover as long on each passing down. How comfortable would you be with the current group? -- Sean Doherty, Guelph, Ontario
Hey, Sean: If you could guarantee me they would stay healthy and play 16 games, I'd be comfortable with that.
Hey Sean: AMEN!
Hey, Tony: Good point. But he's referring to MM's who proclaim the need for a vedderunn STARDER, calling Holly "inexperienced", implying that a cornerback needs several YEARS to develop, and declaring Terrell and other UFA's DOA after an extremely deep CB draft.
Hey, Tony: Do you think the Browns have any interest in former Raider and Colt Dominic Rhodes as insurance for Jamal Lewis? -- Joe Boesch, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Joe: For the umpteenth time, the Browns are comfortable with Jason Wright and Jerome Harrison as their backup running backs.
Hey Joe: Stop it you're killing us.
Hey, Tony: What do you think are the chances the Browns might deploy Gary Baxter as the third safety in a "Big Nickel" package? With his experience at CB and his size and strength as a safety, he might fit the bill. Romeo apparently used this configuration at New England. -- Chuck, Mayfield Heights, Ohio
Hey, Chuck: Baxter has to prove he can run laterally. That wasn't the case when he made it back to the field last year.
Hey Chuck: Thanks for being you. Yeah, I'm sure they have that in mind, but Tony's right about the lateral movement thing. However, Tony might be forgetting that safety and cornerback are different positions--many safeties ARE safeties because they don't have flexible hips and can be shaken by quick recievers. Also, Tony is determined to avoid using his imagination: Baxter's injuries take two years to come back from. Here it is. Don't write the man off.
Hey, Tony: Things with Kellen Winslow are looking, well, grim. I now look at the Donte Stallworth signing as, perhaps, the most intriguing move of any team this off-season. (Not counting retiring QBs) So my question becomes this, are we looking at a season of an aging Jurevicius in multiple WR formations or should we expect a one-legged Winslow to continue to be a focal point of the 2008 offense? -- Joe Cepec, Columbus, Ohio
Hey, Joe: Perhaps you hit on the reason Martin Rucker became so attractive to the Browns in the draft.
Hey, Joe: Your head is more than a hat-rack, ok? Winslow kicked ass and went to the Pro Bowl last season, so what's this "another season of" crap? It does look grim, but Hubbard is OBVIOUSLY here to ease into his role and insure continuity. Chud's offense more often than not deploys two TE's or two backs even in some longer down and distance situations by design. Plus--behind Edwards/Stallworth/Jurevicious who is the fourth reciever? Or third when someone is injured? Do you think Chud designs a playboook in which a good part of it gets deleted after one injury? jeez!!!
Hey, Tony: Being a huge Penn State fan, I was interested to see that Austin Scott was signed from the tryout period. I know it's early, but what do you think his chances are in making the final roster? -- Joe Zaidinski, Bethpage, N.Y.
Hey, Joe: I answer all questions about undrafted rookie free agents about the same. Chances of making the roster: Slim and none. Not impossible. Not probable. Charles Ali made it last year, so I would expect one undrafted free agent to rise to the top. Will it be Scott? I have no educated guess on that.
Hey, Tony: Now that the Browns have developed a stronger roster, including 6 Pro Bowlers, who do you think will be the first player the Browns may have to use the franchise tag on to keep from losing him, and when will it happen? -- Bill Johnson, Akron, Ohio
Hey, Bill: To use the franchise tag, the Browns would have to absolutely want to keep a star player whose contract is up and who may be asking for the moon and the stars. Safety Sean Jones comes to mind, but there is no inkling of a contract impasse with him. I wouldn't worry about this. By the time a franchise player-type issue faces the Browns, the whole concept of franchise player might be wiped away by a new collective bargaining agreement or work stoppage.
Hey, Tony: Wanted to know your opinion on the recently released Adam Archuleta. Any possible interest in him from the Browns? I think he could, at the very least, provide some much needed experience and depth in the defensive backfield. Thoughts? -- Ron Biswas, New Haven, Conn.
Hey, Ron: He's a decent player, strictly a safety who likes to play close to the line of scrimmage, who could provide what you say. If he's healthy, I'd consider him. He's only 30. I'm not sure how he'd fit in Romeo Crennel's defense, but anybody who can tackle should find a role.
Hey, Tony: Not so long ago, cleveland.com enabled a comments feature for so-called fans to display the ignorant nonsense that immediately enters their brain after reading an off-season article about their local professional football team. I'm not sure that anybody could hate this feature more than I do. Message boards are for people who can't get anybody to read their blog. Your thoughts? -- Scott Trepal, Cleveland
Hey, Scott: Welcome to the Internet world in the 21st century. We're all adapting to it.
Hey, Scott: Sorry about the lynching that happened 2 minutes after this was published. Get well soon.
Hey, Tony: Last off-season, a big deal was made about Jamal Lewis' physically demanding training program that he and Jerome Harrison attended and seemed to benefit from. I was curious if you are aware if they are participating in the same program this off-season? -- Jon Young, Hudson, Ohio
Hey, Jon: Sorry, I'm not aware of it. But I promise to ask them at the June minicamp.
Hey Jon: Oh COOL! I hope that's right, man! Edwards trained with Jerry Rice this off-season too. With Harrison, Lewis's personal example and influence could be invaluable, since the sole issue Romeo cites with him is poor practices. And obviously, that program works! The whole football world thought Lewis was a shadow of his former self, or even washed-up. "You only have so many carries in your body, regardless of chronological age".
If what you heard is true, it's a very very good sign that Harrison has his attitude straight, and could earn his way onto the field more this season. The sky is the limit for this TWO HUNDRED SEVENTEEN POUND running back.
Hey, Tony: I like to keep up with the Browns roster. I would like to see a column added that would show when a player's contract expires. That being said, what are Steve Cargile's contract terms? -- Dale Galbraith, Barberton, Ohio
Hey, Dale: I'd love to know, too, but players' contract information formerly accessible to the media has been suspended. The NFL players union is revamping its Web site and the contract information has not yet been added.
Hey, Tony: Why has no one, whether coach or teammate, been able to light a fire under WR Travis Wilson for the past three seasons? If WR Paul Hubbard works out, where does that leave Wilson in the mix? -- Jim Albertson, Norman, Okla.
Hey, Jim: I wouldn't get overly excited about Hubbard just yet. Let's see him catch a ball in the middle of the field when players are going full speed. That said, Wilson will have to earn his roster spot this year, unlike the previous two.
Hey, Jim: That's right. Savage isn't ashamed to release his own draft picks, and the third season is make-or-break. Hubbard is here specificly to challenge him, and one of the two will come out on top, period. It does NOT mean that Wilson will neccessarily be cut if he loses, however--as some have said. But he WILL absolutely be cut if he doesn't run correct patterns and catch the damn ball.
Hey, Tony: I understand all the Browns draft picks except Paul Hubbard. Why move up to get a guy with questionable hands who isn't going to return kicks because you already have a Pro Bowler back there? -- Chris Bien, Ashtabula, Ohio
Hey, Chris: All I can say is the Browns like Hubbard's size. There's a coaching theory that you can teach a player to catch (or throw or tackle, etc.) but you can't teach size. So big players get a closer look than others.
Hey Chris: It wasn't the first round DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Hubbard is, like MOST low-round picks, a developmental player who projects to being a contributor at least one season down the road. Hubbard is big and fast, and has demonstrated great hands. He dropped because he also dropped some passes, and because he was injured.
WHEN A RECIEVER MAKES GREAT CATCHES MOST OF THE TIME BUT DROPS SOME EASY ONES IT MEANS IT'S MENTAL. IT MEANS THAT IF THE PLAYER CONCENTRATES HE CAN CATCH EVERYTHING THROWN TO HIM. IT MEANS JERRY RICE CAN DROP EVERY SEVENTH PASS AS A ROOKE AND THEN GO TO THE HALL OF FAME DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Hey, Tony: Do you think or have you heard if the Browns are still interested in Takeo Spikes or Al Wilson and if they are, do you think either would be a good pick-up? -- William Green, Hubbard, Ohio
Hey, William: To my knowledge, Browns never had an interest in Spikes. They gave Wilson a physical but made no offer. They may have brought him in for the NFL minimum salary but Wilson, a five-time Pro Bowler, thinks he's worth more.
Hey William: Repeat after me: "The Cleveland Browns are strong and deep at ILB". STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
-- Tony
Saturday, May 10, 2008
Chat Corrections
The following is an Adam Caplan chat transcript. He had a bad week.
Did the front office know that McGinest was calling it quits after this year?Adam Caplan: BR: Everyone one knew about it, not a surprise, was totally expected
Adam, Ahtyba Rubin, can he be the sixth defensive lineman this year?
Adam Caplan: RAM: He will be expected to be in the mix for a spot on the active roster
Is this one of the reasons the front office was trying so hard to get an OLB?
...huh?
Adam Caplan: BR: One doesn't have to do with the otherAdam Caplan: since McGinest is playing this season
Adam, is Shaun Rogers going to start at nose tackle or end, how will the starting d line look??Adam Caplan: CD: As for Rogers, RAC said he will play bothAdam Caplan: the decision where he will start out each game will probably have something to do with gameplan, how he looks in practice, and opponentAdam Caplan: each week
Adam, do you see the opening defensive front three as Williams, Smith and Rogers?Adam Caplan: RAM: I would say that's a pretty good betAdam Caplan: and a pretty good look for the front three
Could be! If they had S SMITH at DE, then Rogers can probably do it. He has better height, and is faster. Meanwhile, S Smith's best position is nose tackle. Even if Rogers is better than Smith at NT, this is how to make the most of your talent.
Adam might also mean Robaire Smith. That would work too--with Rogers at the nose and S Smith a rotational player. Bottom line is 4 good linemen rotating in 3 slots.
Adam, as of now who would you keep on the roster, Wilson or Hubbard
Adam Caplan: DA: Way too early to say either wayAdam Caplan: team has no ideaAdam Caplan: and won't for some timeAdam Caplan: but I will say this, they might keep Hubbard on the active roster just so they don't lose him through waiversAdam Caplan: so that means Wilson could be out of a job either way
5 active WR's: Edwards, Jurevicious, Stallworth...
Adam, what is going to be a position the Browns will be looking to draft in 2009, they seem pretty set everywhere besides secondary and outside linebacker
Adam Caplan: CD: Time will tell through the season but obviously they have to address CBAdam Caplan: that's one need that is worse than it was at the start of free agency
CORRECTION: They have three, plus a safety who can be a situational corner. They recruited young talent who can play situationally and could quickly grow into a zone scheme. Adam continues to greatly exhaggerate the need for one depth-player who is ready to cover for injuries.
Any of the UDFA's impress you?
Adam Caplan: AM: I'm never impressed with anyone in the post-draft campAdam Caplan: what you're looking for is the players to understand what they are being asked to do so farAdam Caplan: how fluid they lookAdam Caplan: Don't be fooled by anything you read about the rookies nowAdam Caplan: what I want to see is how they do when the pads go on
Adam, is Austin Scott someone that could develop into something??
What's with the extra question marks?
Adam Caplan: CD: If he's not cut before training camp he could push HarrisonAdam Caplan: understand UDFAs are literally in a week to week situation
why hasn't holly signed his contract?
Adam Caplan: TJM: The Browns now hold his rightsAdam Caplan: he will sign it before mandatory work
Adam, do you think Peek will perform as well as you thought he would last year now that he is healthy?
Adam Caplan: PAGE: The team apparently saw what I saw on tape before last season so if healthy, he should be a solid rotational player
CORRECTION: Peek was a rotational passrusher in a 4-3. He is a starting OLB in a 3-4 DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Lets say DA has another fine year and BQ gets little playing time. What kind of draft pick would he bring in trade?
How retarded! They'd trade DA for like a jillion draft picks.
Adam Caplan: AM: conditional 3-4th rounderAdam Caplan: based on PT time that he got with the new teamAdam
Dumb and dumber! Under contract, first round pick, probably better than anyone in this year's draft, 2 years in the NFL? Get a clue!!!
Caplan: but I can tell you the team doesn't want to trade QuinnAdam Caplan: They see Quinn as a decently paid backup QBAdam
HE WAS NOT DRAFTED TO RIDE THE BENCH. HE IS PAID TOO MUCH TO BACK UP. HE MAY EVEN NOW BE BETTER THAN ANDERSON WITH THIS MOST EXCELLENT SUPPORTING CAST.
Caplan: why sign someone else who hasn't been there
But won't BQ's agent demand a trade if things are status quo after this year?
Adam Caplan: AM: That's what I said last year and that could happen, problem is the Browns hold all the leverage
Adam, how do you see the ILB position playing out. I see Davis and Jackson starting, but I can see a nice rotation of our LB's as well
Adam Caplan: DA: Training camp will settle that, it's not a lock that Davis starts, in fact, I think Williams will win that
Correct, except that Williams may well be tried at OLB. Furthermore, the massively-underrated Beau Bell and the other vet FA who can play inside could make this move easy. Bell starts by mid-season. Stand by.
Adam, can Ahtyba Rubin play defensive end and play at the same level as he could at nose or is he strictly a nose tackle??
Adam Caplan: CD: They haven't said if he can or can't play DE yetAdam Caplan: I believe he has the movement skills to do soAdam Caplan: though
I didn't know that! COOL!
Adam, any shot Beau Bell could crack the starting lineup week 1??
Adam Caplan: CD: Yes because they aren't happy with the other three totallyAdam Caplan: wouldn't be surprise at all if he won a stating job
Yeah and stop with all the question marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is Shaun Smith anything more than an average NT?
Adam Caplan: TJ: Check he amount of snaps he had to play at DEAdam Caplan: then you'll see why he got worn down last seasonAdam Caplan: it got to be a jokeAdam Caplan: this season will be differentAdam Caplan: they will have a great rotation
If more teams played the 34 Defense what round would Rubin have been taken?Adam Caplan: PGE: No way to knowAdam Caplan: I can tell you though he had a 5th-6th round grade from most teams
Adam, how much do they like D'Qwell Jackson because next years ILB crop with Maualuga and Laurinaitus looks strong and Ray Lewis may hit the open market in free agency??
You want Gramps Lewis???? Think you can get the cap raised by then???? Sign him til he's 50, right????
Adam Caplan: CD: They want to see Jackson step up his playAdam Caplan: then make a decision after 2008Adam Caplan: on the ILBsAdam Caplan: that position, if they all play well plus Bell won't be a priority
If I can chime in, Smith was bad at DE last year. But at NT, our defense was changed, we played much better with him in there. Problem is, Roye was hurt and Smith had to play DE, not to mention many 3 and outs on occasion fatigued our defense, and Smith was one of the few that could actually play DE also.
THERE IS INTELLIGENT LIFE IN CLEVELAND!
Adam Caplan: DA: You should have seen practice, they had a hard time getting three healthy DLs some weeksAdam Caplan: RAC said he will play DE and NTAdam Caplan: which kind of surprised me
Me too. But he probably meant situationally.
DQ seems small for the kind of LB's Romeo likes to use (ala New England) - agree?Adam Caplan: AM: NE's ILBs are smallAdam Caplan: 240 lbs rangeAdam Caplan: Bruschi smallerAdam Caplan: in fact
Correct. Speed is a priority for ILB's in a properly-manned 3-4. The whole foundation of the scheme is to occupy 5 blockers with 3 linemen so the backers can run around and stop people. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Adam, any idea how Melila Purcell has developed? has he gained much weight to play in our defense?
Adam Caplan: LIL: I expect him to beat out Pittman, he has more upside
Adam, any shot they look to add a safety next year if Sean Jones and Brodney Pool don't step up their game
Adam Caplan: CD: sureAdam Caplan: they also need depth there
Adam, who does Alexander go to and does he have any left in the tank?Adam Caplan: BR: He can't playAdam Caplan: Seattle said so by releasing himAdam Caplan: when a player is released just a few years into an extension they are telling you what they think of himAdam Caplan: and he's not the kind of RB that can come off the bench
Adam, what is going on with Antonio Pittman now a days, is he still with the Rams??
Why are you wasting everybody's time???? Who cares???? Let somebody else ask questions????
Adam Caplan: CD: YesAdam Caplan: Pittman is still with STL
Honestly, Adam, I only see Smith at DE if somebody is injured. I mean, he may take a drive or so a game, but that's it.
Adam Caplan: DA: They will see who does well in each and plan accordinglyAdam Caplan: they need one more DE to set the rotationAdam Caplan: it could be Purcell
Adam, June 1st cuts?
Adam Caplan: BR: Most overrated and non issue dateAdam Caplan: new CBA gives teams more flexibilityAdam Caplan: so you rarely see any big namesAdam Caplan: go post 6/1Adam Caplan: most moves were done prior to the draft
Adam, do you know Purcell's weight as of now? Does he look bigger and stronger? If so, he'll make this team, IMO.
Adam Caplan: DA: 270 range, maybe a little more
Bummer
Adam, are their many teams heavy in CB talent, so that they will have some late preseason trades?
Adam Caplan: RAM: We could see the Eagles do something
I think Rubin could contribute at DE. he's best suited at NT, but he's strong enough to rush as a DE, IMO.
IMO? IMO? You guys are a PIA. LOL.
Adam Caplan: DA: Understand DEs usually in 3-4 are run defendersAdam Caplan: Williams will be the exception
If the Browns offense continues to excel this year - will Chud get Head Coaching opportunities?
Adam Caplan: AM: Yes, he has a lot of interest out there
...dammit.
Adam, we need to sign some players long term. How does a potential lock out affect that?
Adam Caplan: BR: It's really a cap issue now
What happens with signing bonuses after 2009?
Adam Caplan: BR: Nothing ,they are paidAdam Caplan: without a cap though free agents aren't UFAs until 6 years
Was that in reference to my Rubin comment? Because he's a run stopper, which is another reason I feel he could play
Adam Caplan: DA: Yes, he really wouldn't be expected to rush the passer
They start out 2-gapping, but in attack-mode. They try to drive the guard back off-balance, and once they read pass, to shed and penetrate to the QB.
When you say Williams will be the exception, what do you mean?
Adam Caplan: RAM: usually DEs in 3-4 scheme aren't pass rushersAdam Caplan: Williams will be the exception because he will be asked to get to the passer
Sometimes. He'll split the guard-tackle gap rather than engaging the guard, or might cross the guard's face and go over center--or something else. Sometimes. But he's also great at shedding off a 2-gap.
Adam, on paper does our defense move up to the mid range?
Adam Caplan: BR: Only issue is the back 4 nowAdam Caplan: front seven should be decent
Do you see Hubbard making the active roster?
Adam Caplan: TOP: I addressed that earlier, they could choose to keep him on active rosterAdam Caplan: so he wouldn't get signed off of waiversAdam Caplan: which means Wilson is out
Not unless another WR is better, THIS season.
<64superfan> So, what's the story with the back four? We've got to add corners. I still would like to know which UDFAs show the most promise.
Adam Caplan: 64: Ask me in AugustAdam Caplan: there's no contactAdam Caplan: nowAdam Caplan: no way to have any ideaAdam Caplan: But what you want to see out of them is how well they move and understandAdam Caplan: what they are being asked to do
Adam, whats going on with Ty Law, any shot we take a chance??
YOU again???? Gramps Law, too???? How bout Hanford Dixon????
Adam Caplan: CD: He wants a little more cashAdam Caplan: CLE doesn't have anything left to give himAdam Caplan: other than one-year minimum
<64superfan> Adam, Pittman was working with the rookies last weekend. What seems to be the plan for him?
Adam Caplan: 64: They'd like him to win a job on the active rosterAdam Caplan: I'm interested to see if he can beat out PurcellAdam Caplan: The one UDFA who has a chance to make the team is Austin ScottAdam Caplan: AJ Davis was an interesting prospectAdam Caplan: I want to see how he does once the pads go onAdam Caplan: he could actually contribute
Does Kevin Kasper really have a shot at making the team?
Adam Caplan: TOP: UnlikelyAdam Caplan: I'd be surprised
Are the Browns getting capped out - will they be able to sign any significant free agent next year?
Adam Caplan: AM: They will be ok next year
Adam, you mention Austin Scott, I'm assuming Harrison would be the odd man out in this situation, as Wright hasshown to be an effective #2. Problem is, Harrison has potential to step up as a #2. What are your thoughts? And sorry every question of mine is about 2 paragraphs long. haha
Adam Caplan: DA: For sure, Harrison would have to be outAdam Caplan: they really want to push himAdam Caplan: Scott has the talentAdam Caplan: at this point, Harrison and Wilson are less than 50-50 to make itAdam Caplan: based on the past two seasons of non-contributionsAdam Caplan: especially Wilson who has been a big zeroAdam Caplan: that's why they offered him to the Vikings
Harrison averages over 5 YPC and has learned to block. His issue is attitudinal--Romeo will not play people who don't work hard in practice.
Do you see the Browns keeping Shaffer at RT beyond 08?
Adam Caplan: TOP: Yep, that's his best position and he knows itAdam Caplan: on tape it shows tooAdam Caplan: he wasn't a natural LT
Adam, would you say Harrison has a better chance than Wilson to make the roster??
STOP IT YOU'RE KILLING US????
Adam Caplan: CD: Yes
DOYEEEEEE????
Were the Browns really shopping Braylon Edwards during last year's draft?Adam Caplan: AM: They wanted to see what he would yield and no one gave anything significant
Adam, What is with David McMillan, LB, ST player. Can he make it?
Adam Caplan: RAM: Peek and Orr will be expected to be ahead of him
Orr? Orr will be a utility guy--he's a versdatile 3-4 journeyman. And Williams may well be in that mix.
Adam, in the media is seems like Edwards has really matured. Is there the same perception in the lockerroom?
Adam Caplan: BR: Yes and yes. In fact, was talking to a pro personnel director from an NFC team today about thatAdam Caplan: Just about how Edwards could be even better this season
WILL be. He was not fully recovered from his surgery. He will be faster, and cut better.
Adam, will Rucker take Heiden's spot on goal line passing? I've always seen Heiden as a strong reliable target in theshort field
Adam Caplan: DA: Depends on down, distance, and situationAdam Caplan: and play callAdam Caplan: Rucker will give them a chance formationally to do different thingsAdam Caplan: against each opponent
Rucker is more a Winslow-type than a Heiden type. Regardless of how well Rucker actually blocks in-line, Heiden will remain the main blocker, to usually be used in these situations--which could be passes or runs.The defense can't key on a pass with Heiden there--they might be able to with Rucker instead.
However, this could set up a three-TE set! Rucker and Winslow are prototype H-backs, and Heiden is sometimes lined up at fullback. (Rucker also insists he can block, takes pride in it, and is anxious to prove it. With that attitude and the fact that he can add weight, I'll bet on it.)
Jumbo: Vickers/Lewis/3 TE's.
Wow.
Adam Caplan: all, see you next week
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Adam Caplan: RAM: He will be expected to be in the mix for a spot on the active roster
...huh?
Adam Caplan: BR: One doesn't have to do with the otherAdam Caplan: since McGinest is playing this season
Adam, is Shaun Rogers going to start at nose tackle or end, how will the starting d line look??Adam Caplan: CD: As for Rogers, RAC said he will play bothAdam Caplan: the decision where he will start out each game will probably have something to do with gameplan, how he looks in practice, and opponentAdam Caplan: each week
Could be! If they had S SMITH at DE, then Rogers can probably do it. He has better height, and is faster. Meanwhile, S Smith's best position is nose tackle. Even if Rogers is better than Smith at NT, this is how to make the most of your talent.
Adam might also mean Robaire Smith. That would work too--with Rogers at the nose and S Smith a rotational player. Bottom line is 4 good linemen rotating in 3 slots.
Adam Caplan: DA: Way too early to say either wayAdam Caplan: team has no ideaAdam Caplan: and won't for some timeAdam Caplan: but I will say this, they might keep Hubbard on the active roster just so they don't lose him through waiversAdam Caplan: so that means Wilson could be out of a job either way
5 active WR's: Edwards, Jurevicious, Stallworth...
Adam Caplan: CD: Time will tell through the season but obviously they have to address CBAdam Caplan: that's one need that is worse than it was at the start of free agency
CORRECTION: They have three, plus a safety who can be a situational corner. They recruited young talent who can play situationally and could quickly grow into a zone scheme. Adam continues to greatly exhaggerate the need for one depth-player who is ready to cover for injuries.
Any of the UDFA's impress you?
Adam Caplan: AM: I'm never impressed with anyone in the post-draft campAdam Caplan: what you're looking for is the players to understand what they are being asked to do so farAdam Caplan: how fluid they lookAdam Caplan: Don't be fooled by anything you read about the rookies nowAdam Caplan: what I want to see is how they do when the pads go on
What's with the extra question marks?
Adam Caplan: CD: If he's not cut before training camp he could push HarrisonAdam Caplan: understand UDFAs are literally in a week to week situation
Adam Caplan: TJM: The Browns now hold his rightsAdam Caplan: he will sign it before mandatory work
Adam, do you think Peek will perform as well as you thought he would last year now that he is healthy?
Adam Caplan: PAGE: The team apparently saw what I saw on tape before last season so if healthy, he should be a solid rotational player
CORRECTION: Peek was a rotational passrusher in a 4-3. He is a starting OLB in a 3-4 DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
How retarded! They'd trade DA for like a jillion draft picks.
Adam Caplan: AM: conditional 3-4th rounderAdam Caplan: based on PT time that he got with the new teamAdam
Dumb and dumber! Under contract, first round pick, probably better than anyone in this year's draft, 2 years in the NFL? Get a clue!!!
Caplan: but I can tell you the team doesn't want to trade QuinnAdam Caplan: They see Quinn as a decently paid backup QBAdam
HE WAS NOT DRAFTED TO RIDE THE BENCH. HE IS PAID TOO MUCH TO BACK UP. HE MAY EVEN NOW BE BETTER THAN ANDERSON WITH THIS MOST EXCELLENT SUPPORTING CAST.
Caplan: why sign someone else who hasn't been there
Adam Caplan: AM: That's what I said last year and that could happen, problem is the Browns hold all the leverage
Adam Caplan: DA: Training camp will settle that, it's not a lock that Davis starts, in fact, I think Williams will win that
Correct, except that Williams may well be tried at OLB. Furthermore, the massively-underrated Beau Bell and the other vet FA who can play inside could make this move easy. Bell starts by mid-season. Stand by.
Adam Caplan: CD: They haven't said if he can or can't play DE yetAdam Caplan: I believe he has the movement skills to do soAdam Caplan: though
I didn't know that! COOL!
Adam Caplan: CD: Yes because they aren't happy with the other three totallyAdam Caplan: wouldn't be surprise at all if he won a stating job
Yeah and stop with all the question marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam Caplan: TJ: Check he amount of snaps he had to play at DEAdam Caplan: then you'll see why he got worn down last seasonAdam Caplan: it got to be a jokeAdam Caplan: this season will be differentAdam Caplan: they will have a great rotation
You want Gramps Lewis???? Think you can get the cap raised by then???? Sign him til he's 50, right????
Adam Caplan: CD: They want to see Jackson step up his playAdam Caplan: then make a decision after 2008Adam Caplan: on the ILBsAdam Caplan: that position, if they all play well plus Bell won't be a priority
THERE IS INTELLIGENT LIFE IN CLEVELAND!
Adam Caplan: DA: You should have seen practice, they had a hard time getting three healthy DLs some weeksAdam Caplan: RAC said he will play DE and NTAdam Caplan: which kind of surprised me
Me too. But he probably meant situationally.
Correct. Speed is a priority for ILB's in a properly-manned 3-4. The whole foundation of the scheme is to occupy 5 blockers with 3 linemen so the backers can run around and stop people. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Adam Caplan: LIL: I expect him to beat out Pittman, he has more upside
Adam Caplan: CD: sureAdam Caplan: they also need depth there
Why are you wasting everybody's time???? Who cares???? Let somebody else ask questions????
Adam Caplan: CD: YesAdam Caplan: Pittman is still with STL
Adam Caplan: DA: They will see who does well in each and plan accordinglyAdam Caplan: they need one more DE to set the rotationAdam Caplan: it could be Purcell
Adam Caplan: BR: Most overrated and non issue dateAdam Caplan: new CBA gives teams more flexibilityAdam Caplan: so you rarely see any big namesAdam Caplan: go post 6/1Adam Caplan: most moves were done prior to the draft
Adam Caplan: DA: 270 range, maybe a little more
Bummer
Adam Caplan: RAM: We could see the Eagles do something
IMO? IMO? You guys are a PIA. LOL.
Adam Caplan: DA: Understand DEs usually in 3-4 are run defendersAdam Caplan: Williams will be the exception
Adam Caplan: AM: Yes, he has a lot of interest out there
...dammit.
Adam Caplan: BR: It's really a cap issue now
Adam Caplan: BR: Nothing ,they are paidAdam Caplan: without a cap though free agents aren't UFAs until 6 years
Adam Caplan: DA: Yes, he really wouldn't be expected to rush the passer
They start out 2-gapping, but in attack-mode. They try to drive the guard back off-balance, and once they read pass, to shed and penetrate to the QB.
Adam Caplan: RAM: usually DEs in 3-4 scheme aren't pass rushersAdam Caplan: Williams will be the exception because he will be asked to get to the passer
Sometimes. He'll split the guard-tackle gap rather than engaging the guard, or might cross the guard's face and go over center--or something else. Sometimes. But he's also great at shedding off a 2-gap.
Adam Caplan: BR: Only issue is the back 4 nowAdam Caplan: front seven should be decent
Adam Caplan: TOP: I addressed that earlier, they could choose to keep him on active rosterAdam Caplan: so he wouldn't get signed off of waiversAdam Caplan: which means Wilson is out
Not unless another WR is better, THIS season.
<64superfan> So, what's the story with the back four? We've got to add corners. I still would like to know which UDFAs show the most promise.
Adam Caplan: 64: Ask me in AugustAdam Caplan: there's no contactAdam Caplan: nowAdam Caplan: no way to have any ideaAdam Caplan: But what you want to see out of them is how well they move and understandAdam Caplan: what they are being asked to do
YOU again???? Gramps Law, too???? How bout Hanford Dixon????
Adam Caplan: CD: He wants a little more cashAdam Caplan: CLE doesn't have anything left to give himAdam Caplan: other than one-year minimum
<64superfan> Adam, Pittman was working with the rookies last weekend. What seems to be the plan for him?
Adam Caplan: 64: They'd like him to win a job on the active rosterAdam Caplan: I'm interested to see if he can beat out PurcellAdam Caplan: The one UDFA who has a chance to make the team is Austin ScottAdam Caplan: AJ Davis was an interesting prospectAdam Caplan: I want to see how he does once the pads go onAdam Caplan: he could actually contribute
Adam Caplan: TOP: UnlikelyAdam Caplan: I'd be surprised
Adam Caplan: AM: They will be ok next year
Adam Caplan: DA: For sure, Harrison would have to be outAdam Caplan: they really want to push himAdam Caplan: Scott has the talentAdam Caplan: at this point, Harrison and Wilson are less than 50-50 to make itAdam Caplan: based on the past two seasons of non-contributionsAdam Caplan: especially Wilson who has been a big zeroAdam Caplan: that's why they offered him to the Vikings
Harrison averages over 5 YPC and has learned to block. His issue is attitudinal--Romeo will not play people who don't work hard in practice.
Adam Caplan: TOP: Yep, that's his best position and he knows itAdam Caplan: on tape it shows tooAdam Caplan: he wasn't a natural LT
STOP IT YOU'RE KILLING US????
Adam Caplan: CD: Yes
DOYEEEEEE????
Adam Caplan: RAM: Peek and Orr will be expected to be ahead of him
Orr? Orr will be a utility guy--he's a versdatile 3-4 journeyman. And Williams may well be in that mix.
Adam Caplan: BR: Yes and yes. In fact, was talking to a pro personnel director from an NFC team today about thatAdam Caplan: Just about how Edwards could be even better this season
WILL be. He was not fully recovered from his surgery. He will be faster, and cut better.
Adam Caplan: DA: Depends on down, distance, and situationAdam Caplan: and play callAdam Caplan: Rucker will give them a chance formationally to do different thingsAdam Caplan: against each opponent
Rucker is more a Winslow-type than a Heiden type. Regardless of how well Rucker actually blocks in-line, Heiden will remain the main blocker, to usually be used in these situations--which could be passes or runs.The defense can't key on a pass with Heiden there--they might be able to with Rucker instead.
However, this could set up a three-TE set! Rucker and Winslow are prototype H-backs, and Heiden is sometimes lined up at fullback. (Rucker also insists he can block, takes pride in it, and is anxious to prove it. With that attitude and the fact that he can add weight, I'll bet on it.)
Jumbo: Vickers/Lewis/3 TE's.
Wow.
Adam Caplan: all, see you next week
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Friday, May 2, 2008
UFA Sighting
Darnell Terrell, CB MO: Scouts disagreed a lot on this guy, except that he is a size/speed physical specimen. With an intelligent agent, who had him sign with a team lacking depth at cornerback. Too bad more agents don't have brains.
Anyway, Marino was pretty down on him, describing stiff hips. Some people don't really understand that: DB's in coverage often start in a backpedal, and then need to change directions or rotate into a foreward sprint. Between the lower-trunk and hips, if you're not flexible, you have a balance issue, and have to take extra steps to complete this maneuver. "Good hips" are critical for man coverage--this is why many bigger cornerbacks become safeties in the NFL.
But this guy: Other scouts described good hips and fluid change-of-direction, indicating man ability. So what do we make of it?
Well, regardless of who is right, Savage knows how to dig up free rookie cornerbacks.
Then:
1: This defense, like Pitt's, used mostly zone coverage. It's still predominantly two-deep zone. This often goes with a 3-4, as it has much to do with zone-blitzing. That effects coverage, and the zone scheme is important for protecting against underneath passes and runs. While now that we have Wright and safeties who can man-up on some of the bigger recievers and most tight ends, some man coverage can be mixed in, so long as the QB and recievers don't read it pre-snap. (Or they can read it and be WRONG, which is also cool).
2: The worst-case scenario with Terrell is that he indeed becomes a safety. He's more a free-safety than strong, but does have the size to be effective as a twin safety in a two-deep.
3: Forget about Marino or anyone else who ever predicts "He'll need at least two years to develop" about any DB ever. Nickel and dime packages vary widely depending on what personnel an opposing offense deploys on passing downs. For example, if the slot guy is an Eric Metcalf type, you need a jitterbug speedster. If he's Jurevicious, you need...Terrell. See how it works? The cornerback need not be all refined and polished to be used situationally. You start him out in one specific role, and any player can become proficient in a matter of weeks, or even days, provided he has the physical tools.
Terrell should make the team based on his potential and special teams ability. He has a shot to become the fourth safety or fifth cornerback--or even the fourth.
Marino is pretty good, though (in my opinion Steuber and Mayock are better). I just hope he's wrong, and that Terrell is a big-time sleeper at cornerback. Even of he can't do man, though--he could still become a starting zone cornerback.
Chase Ortiz is a defensive end who here would try to be an OLB. This guy is a LOCK to remain in the NFL regardless of where he plays, because he gets sacks and tackles for loss out the yinyang. Immediately here, he could be a situational pass-rusher/big-time special teamer.
There's a question about his ability to play outside linebacker. Marino says his hips are too stiff, but Steuber says he has great lateral movement and smooth change-of-direction, indicating that Marino is wrong.
As an intelligent analyst, I note this repetition of Marino's comment, and seem to recall a pre-existing pattern about Marino and hips. He also has a thing about "ball skills", which means that if a defensive back doesn't intercept everything he touches, he sucks.
This guy should make the team, and might MIGHT MIGHT be an OLB sleeper. One thing he does is make plays in the backfield, and on obvious passing downs, he could be used immediately.
Tough to say, with mediocre clock-times. I mean, the guy could gain 20 lbs. and be an outside 4-3 DE. Playing speed might be a lot faster--sure seems that way with his stats. Shows great insticts, which is a big part of it.
McMillan hasn't worked out, but maybe this guy will. He's under 6'3" as well, and could be tried at inside linebacker.
Why doesn't anybody else think about this stuff? Used to shedding, instinctive, tackles-for-losses, 6'2 1/2 255? Huh?
Anyway, Marino was pretty down on him, describing stiff hips. Some people don't really understand that: DB's in coverage often start in a backpedal, and then need to change directions or rotate into a foreward sprint. Between the lower-trunk and hips, if you're not flexible, you have a balance issue, and have to take extra steps to complete this maneuver. "Good hips" are critical for man coverage--this is why many bigger cornerbacks become safeties in the NFL.
But this guy: Other scouts described good hips and fluid change-of-direction, indicating man ability. So what do we make of it?
Well, regardless of who is right, Savage knows how to dig up free rookie cornerbacks.
Then:
1: This defense, like Pitt's, used mostly zone coverage. It's still predominantly two-deep zone. This often goes with a 3-4, as it has much to do with zone-blitzing. That effects coverage, and the zone scheme is important for protecting against underneath passes and runs. While now that we have Wright and safeties who can man-up on some of the bigger recievers and most tight ends, some man coverage can be mixed in, so long as the QB and recievers don't read it pre-snap. (Or they can read it and be WRONG, which is also cool).
2: The worst-case scenario with Terrell is that he indeed becomes a safety. He's more a free-safety than strong, but does have the size to be effective as a twin safety in a two-deep.
3: Forget about Marino or anyone else who ever predicts "He'll need at least two years to develop" about any DB ever. Nickel and dime packages vary widely depending on what personnel an opposing offense deploys on passing downs. For example, if the slot guy is an Eric Metcalf type, you need a jitterbug speedster. If he's Jurevicious, you need...Terrell. See how it works? The cornerback need not be all refined and polished to be used situationally. You start him out in one specific role, and any player can become proficient in a matter of weeks, or even days, provided he has the physical tools.
Terrell should make the team based on his potential and special teams ability. He has a shot to become the fourth safety or fifth cornerback--or even the fourth.
Marino is pretty good, though (in my opinion Steuber and Mayock are better). I just hope he's wrong, and that Terrell is a big-time sleeper at cornerback. Even of he can't do man, though--he could still become a starting zone cornerback.
Chase Ortiz is a defensive end who here would try to be an OLB. This guy is a LOCK to remain in the NFL regardless of where he plays, because he gets sacks and tackles for loss out the yinyang. Immediately here, he could be a situational pass-rusher/big-time special teamer.
There's a question about his ability to play outside linebacker. Marino says his hips are too stiff, but Steuber says he has great lateral movement and smooth change-of-direction, indicating that Marino is wrong.
As an intelligent analyst, I note this repetition of Marino's comment, and seem to recall a pre-existing pattern about Marino and hips. He also has a thing about "ball skills", which means that if a defensive back doesn't intercept everything he touches, he sucks.
This guy should make the team, and might MIGHT MIGHT be an OLB sleeper. One thing he does is make plays in the backfield, and on obvious passing downs, he could be used immediately.
Tough to say, with mediocre clock-times. I mean, the guy could gain 20 lbs. and be an outside 4-3 DE. Playing speed might be a lot faster--sure seems that way with his stats. Shows great insticts, which is a big part of it.
McMillan hasn't worked out, but maybe this guy will. He's under 6'3" as well, and could be tried at inside linebacker.
Why doesn't anybody else think about this stuff? Used to shedding, instinctive, tackles-for-losses, 6'2 1/2 255? Huh?
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